Indiana GOP lawmakers hold off many—but not all—hard-right challengers

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10 thoughts on “Indiana GOP lawmakers hold off many—but not all—hard-right challengers

  1. So-called neutral Associated Press can’t help but throw its petty little jabs in. I’m rarely sympathetic to far-right views–they’re just as rigid and insufferable as the far more numerous (and more powerful) hard-left–but that’s not the responsibility of the AP to judge for us. That’s our job. Does the AP do the same about candidates who want abortions up until the baby’s head is popping out; does it call them “far left”? Does it offer any analysis about how many on the “hard left” are seeking to strip away the “rare” adjective in center-left President Bill Clinton’s famous and long doctrinaire approach “safe, legal and rare”? No? Then why should anyone outside of the choir take a preacher like the AP seriously?

    1. Attacking the refs is generally what people can’t compete. The article was fine.

      Yesterday was a good day. John Jacob can go back to the sidewalk where he belongs to play a pretend abortion doctor, with his ketchup and dismembered baby dolls, as opposed to drawing a check from taxpayers to be an elected representative when he had no interest in any issue but abortion and guns. (Drive your district, John, the roads are trash.) He and Nisly being sent away gives me a small sliver of hope for the Indiana GOP. They have a line they don’t want their party to cross. Sure, I don’t agree with where that line is, but that even they have limits is a good thing.

      A great way to make abortions “rare” would be to reduce the demand for them. Take actions to lead to less unplanned pregnancies like making sex education practical (stop insisting the only way is abstinence-only education which didn’t work before, doesn’t work now, and won’t work in the future), making birth control like IUD’s readily available and easy for women to get (which worked in Colorado, look it up), and work to lower the $250,000 cost of raising a child so people don’t get abortions because they can’t afford another kid.

      Or, we can change nothing and think that eliminating the supply of places to get an abortion will magically solve the issue. Spoiler alert, it won’t, it will lead to more women dying or getting sterilized. Sometimes, I think that the lessons from Prohibition and the War on Drugs have yet to be learned.

      If abortion in the state of Indiana is legal even in the case of rape, incest, or the health of the mother after the Mississippi decision comes down, I will be very surprised. It will be a sad state of affairs that an ectopic pregnancy, which has a 0.0 chance of being a live birth and must be removed in all cases, will be a death sentence in the state of Indiana … but I guess that’s just God’s will, huh? Maybe we should also sentence the father to death if the mother dies during pregnancy or childbirth … only fair that he also has some skin in the game…

    2. Hi Lauren! For those of us who aren’t as savvy about these topics as you appear to be, can you name the candidates (any candidate) who want abortions up until “ the baby’s head is popping out”?

    1. No one wants to consider there are multiple ways to achieve the same goal of minimizing the number of abortions (which is what I’m also after). Makes me think that the goal isn’t the abortions or the babies, it’s about telling other people how they should live their lives and making sure their opinions and preferences are codified as superior in the eyes of the law.

      And the concept that the Federalist Society cranks are pushing, that if it’s not explicitly stated in the Constitution then it can be restricted by the states, is … sure an interesting way to go after any number of rights. I mean, maybe Justice Thomas should think that one through when it comes to his interracial marriage… that’s quite unpopular in several states…

    2. Joe B – there is a chicken and the egg part to this… part of the reason is the Supreme Court nominations did not animate / motivate voters in the Democratic Party as much as the GOP over the last few decades.

      One of the changes this may usher in, is the opposite reaction; Dem voters may animate more on the issue.

      If they don’t, over the long-term, then there is the political answer from the people.

      In all the commentary, very little(none?) has been focused on the jurisprudence; its only on the outcomes. ‘profound moral question’; not in constitution; so let the states’ legislatures balance. Seems reasonable to me, on it’s face.

    3. All well and good, but there’s also nothing stopping the federal government from codifying Roe v. Wade in legislation. Will only take a few of the more extreme state bans to play out (women dying entirely preventable deaths due to complications from being mandated to continue non-viable pregnancies) and the national appetite to act will rise.

      Also doesn’t matter what Sinema and Manchin think about the filibuster if Collins and Murkowski feel sufficiently wronged and decide that abortion rights are worth blowing it up over. They’ve been embarrassed so it’s not something I’d rule out.

  2. It is fairly obvious that liberals are trying to change a terrible narrative with social justice issues. Don’t know if that will save them in the fall unless the economy starts to turn around…We will see.

    1. That’s called politics, Clark. Both sides do it.

      You don’t think Republicans were smart to make the 2016 election about holding your nose and voting Trump to get pro-life judges? Or Democrats were foolish to not make the same argument on behalf of Hillary?

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