New state archives building coming to downtown Indy—finally

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19 thoughts on “New state archives building coming to downtown Indy—finally

  1. I wish that The State prioritized the lots to the north of the statehouse. The lot that’s actually on the statehouse grounds itself needs to be converted back into lawn, which a drive-up area for drop-off. The lot North of Ohio should be a parking garage whose perimeter is opened to private development.

    1. Clint F.
      Great question.
      Restaurants and retail are needed on the canal. If the right mix is brought
      in, it could act as a draw for brining more people in.

    2. As much foot traffic as you THINK is on the canal…it’s one-twentieth what’s needed for most restaurants and businesses to survive. Maybe a creative design element that allows canal-side exposure, with street-level access, would be best.

  2. I would think they would have opted for use of the old historical City /County Building setting vacant in downtown. It is ideal with proper historical refurbishing. It’s a landmark. Just my thoughts.

    1. I suspect the old City Hall would have been more expensive, and likely not large enough. Every time someone proposes to use that building for something, it turns out the renovation is far more than the cost of building new. Modern fire suppression, internet, and proper air handling, all make using that structure as a modern office for anything cost prohibitive. As much as its a beautiful building, I think it’s time to accept that its not likely to be useful. And maybe its time to clear the grounds and start over…

    2. Tim S., the old city hall would be a perfect facility for the Jim Isay to permanently display his collection of rock-and-roll instruments. Though I’ve never been in the building, I would imagine you could economically remove the existing ceilings to install a new fire suppression system and HVAC trunks and returns – all exposed to give the space a more contemporary vibe. It could be an awesome place to visit and spend several hours browsing the Irsay Collection.

  3. Please tell me there is canal level retail/restaurant space…

    The canal is the highest potential/most under-activated urban space I’ve ever seen. Everywhere I travel they have canals lined with cafes and shops and food trucks…It’s right in front of Indy’s face and they just don’t activate it. It could be amazing..

    1. Good comment Nathan!
      Instead they build an adult kids playground on Monument Circle.

    2. +1

      The state has chosen to use the canal as landscaping for a number of government buildings, all of which would need to be moved to fully activate the space.

      Throw in the interstate disconnecting it from being (say) a trail from Broad Ripple to downtown … indeed, a wasted opportunity.

    3. Nathen Z.
      +1

      I remember the original plans envisioned that very type of usage when the canal
      was being developed.

  4. For anyone interested in the math, this new government building will cost $766.92 per square foot (assuming it stays on budget). By comparison, the Salesforce Tower in Indianapolis was sold two-and-a-half years ago for $212.67 per square foot.

    1. That’s a faulty comparison, even as downtown office/mixed use rates are being reconfigured as a result of pandemic/home-work schedules being turned upside down.

      The Salesforce Tower is 11 times the size of the proposed new Archives.

  5. Some years ago, the Carroll County Clerk decided to clean house and dispose of records of no further use to that office. Among the discarded documents were poll books from the 1856 and 1860 elections. Today these poll books sell for big bucks to collectors of political memorabilia. For many years Hoosier voters have elected people who have no regard for our history and embrace a low bidder mentality. If it were up to Senator Mishler and those who share his perspective, we would have pole barns as court houses in each of our 92 counties.

  6. Here are quick answers to questions raised in these comments:
    * Yes, retail space at canal level is part of the plan
    * Ratio are the design architects
    * The old city hall building was dismissed as a place for the State Archives many years ago as it simply is totally inadequate, too small, and the interior load-bearing walls are too large and cumbrous yet inadequate to accommodate the records.

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