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So… how much more would it have cost to do the project in 9 months?
My perception from looking at the projects that are affecting me is that we must have decided we will pay less to have them done very slowly. Gone is the HyperFix attitude of … minimizing inconvenience.
I’d say the exception is I-69 Section 6. I’d imagine that there was an early completion bonus in White’s contract.
But when you look at all the other projects impacting commutes into Indy from the south side/Johnson County I agree:
–>Total closure of Pleasant Run Parkway from Bluff/West to Meridian (going on 5 years)
–>Cultural Trail along South Street (causes lane closures on South, on Penn, Delaware, Illinois, and Capitol), going on 3 years now
–>South Meridian Street between Arizona and McCarty (two phases, complete street closure, ongoing for more than two years)
–>SR 135 from Stop 11 north to Thompson Rd. (multi-phase lane restrictions for new/unneeded right turn lanes, ongoing for 6 months)
–>Total closure of NB Illinois (two places, at Union Station and at 27th St., ongoing)
–>Pennsylvania St. (2 left lanes closed at Washington St., ongoing)
–>Serial projects on US31/East St./Madison Avenue including massive rebuild of Thompson Rd. intersection and recent intersection rebuilds further south.
I’d disagree on I-69 Section 6 just based on the Southport intersection. The east/west lanes between Southern Dunes and Harding could have opened 9, if not 12, months earlier. You and I could have opened them in a hour with a couple cans of spray paint and a truck to put the barrels in.
And don’t get me started on the turn lanes on Meridian. Nothing tells me “INDOT has too much money” than that boondoggle. Put lanes likethose in when you rebuild the road, and if you’re going to do a project like that, maybe make them functional lanes instead of being too short for anything but a Formula 1 car?
Joe, I was thinking of the main line of 69.
And that turn lane at Banta is not going to prevent a single rear-ender…you still have to slow well below the limit to even get into it. As you say, like a F1 pit stop.
And yes…nothing says “we spend too much on alleged upgrades and not enough on regular maintenance” more than the SR135 turn lanes (and the current project on Pendleton Pike through Lawrence, putting a median in place of the CLTL through the entire Lawrence commercial district).
I’m sorry, 18 months of construction?! Who signed off on that? Carmel would redo the whole downtown in that amount of time.
It was a state project. Somebody in an office in downtown Indy signed off on that one.
INDOT has no clue what they are doing when it comes to anything that looks like an urban project. My personal experience with the North Split project includes a sidewalk that dead ends on to an Interstate ramp. Clueless.
INDOT gets way too much funding to have so many poorly planned projects. I was told (by somone who read in an article) that it has to do with their funding and how they shift money from one project to another in order to not lose the funding. Total BS. Assuming INDOT is also responsible for the road closure in the business district in Broadripple? How many months has that been? And SR37 going north to Noblesville–that has been a “Work Zone” for a couple of years.
INDOT needs to hire some experienced planners for these projects and utilize the Agile methodology that limits the number of projects you can have running at the same time. Finish one before you start another. Double the construction crews up and get something finished.
The longevity of these projects also impacts the tolerance of commuters when they have to significantly increase their commute time for months on end.
No one wants go 45 mph in a so called “Work Zone” when there isn’t a worker in sight. They need to utilize the flashing lights for the real work zones and bump the speed limit up to 55 or 60 when workers are not present.
Yes, fake work zones are an issue. SB on 65 between Raymond and Keystone is one. At rush hour Friday (no workers present) there was ONE driver slowed to 45…in the center lane. Nearly caused 3 accidents with people dodging to avoid the rolling speed bump (driver didn’t show brake lights or flashers). Someone’s gonna get seriously hurt.
Slow road construction has and will continue to be a problem but I’m surprised they didn’t mention higher interest rates, tight family budgets, and increased costs to consumers. People are not spending $$$ like were 2 years ago.
INDOT needs to figure out how to choose contractor, Fortville is a joke, making jobs last longer is no way run a company and state should stop the practice.
This state is amazing. I used to travel to Dallas Ft. Worth on a regular basis. They could build an entire interstate in one year. Yes, I know the climate is better but still, Indiana seems to move at a snails pace compared to other larger cities.