Bill amendment aims to stop Indy’s no-turn-on-red proposal

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28 thoughts on “Bill amendment aims to stop Indy’s no-turn-on-red proposal

  1. I’m sorry, but I don’t know know how to put it more delicately – Aaron Freeman sounds like an idiot. He honestly thinks the no turn on red proposal is an attempt to force people to ride public transport? I mean, what in the name of Marjorie Taylor Green is this man smoking? Decisions like this need to be left to local governments, not State representatives. Freeman said, “I’m in favor of local control when they’re not stupid.” This comment shows, quite clearly, that Freeman himself is the “stupid” one.

  2. Sen. Freeman: stop.

    IBJ: no editors? “…is the only one of it’s kind in the state.” No apostrophe in “its” please. Fifth grade English.

    1. Haha, it’s funny that you actually took the time to write this out. You definitely don’t add an apostrophe to “its” in the context of this story. Maybe you didn’t make it past fifth grade English, like Mr. Freeman.

  3. What has happened to local rule? These legislators only spend a small amount of their time in Indianapolis then head out. Do they really know what is best for Indianapolis and the protection of locals and visitors. Wish they could just stick to the real problems and legislate for true needs of Indiana.

  4. Every time Freeman opens his mouth, something vile crawls out.

    Freeman may think he is standing firmly middle of the road for this issue – but I think he’ll soon find that Indiana roads are a very dangerous place to be standing – and he’s not a bollard.

    He would do well to sit this one out, maybe on one of the nice IndyGo busses.

    There is no “war on cars” – cars are dangerous, road sprawl is bankrupting our cities, and people are fed up!

  5. It’s good to see some resistance to the current fashion of throttling traffic, willy-nilly, at every opportunity. Good for Aaron Freeman. The city of Indianapolis continues to get stupider and stupider about traffic, and this latest proposal to purposely snarl traffic is yet another example.

  6. Freeman is an idiot who clearly doesn’t spend much time walking around downtown Indy. As someone who has been employed downtown for 20 plus years, I am almost run over at least once a week by someone not abiding the stoplights, signs, or crosswalk signals while walking 2-3 blocks. It is ridiculous! Let Indy control the issue as a city instead of trying to run Indy from the statehouse.

  7. The Republican party used to be all about control at the most local authority – i.e. city rather than state, state rather than federal, etc. Now they are just about control, and if they don’t control it, they legislate it and/or gerrymander it so they can sift control to themselves.
    Aaron Freeman states that the no-turn-on-red policy is “astronomically dumb” and “…stupid”. Since when is trying to protect the lives of pedestrians/citizens a dumb or stupid thing to do? Mr. Freeman exhibits his ignorance when making such statements and submitting such amendments. Bottom line: Stay out of Indianapolis’ business!

  8. What has been missing for years, is the pedestrian and bicyclists taking responsibility for themselves. They have been led to believe, and then led to be entitled, that they have full right of way and don’t have to stop, look, listen, and make intelligent decisions before crossing. Our eyes, ears, and brains are actually our own built in safety and survival tools, not more signage and assumptions that everyone else is watching out for us. We must take full responsibility for ourselves.

  9. A little common sense goes a long way…thank you Mr. Freeman for helping prevent an overreaching regulation from happening!!
    Folks this isn’t Republican/Democrat, local/state…this is a battle between bad policy and good policy. Right turn on red was an unmitigated improvement for driving in the City. It prevents needless idling time, too, for those of you concerned about vehicle emissions. If there are a few particularly dangerous intersections for pedestrians, they can be dealt with on an individual basis without wrecking the efficiency of every other location!
    How about taking that money for NRTOR signs and redirecting it to a publicity campaign on safe driving at intersections? How about increased penalties for drivers who fail to yield to pedestrians causing injury. I feel the broad-brush local ordinance is a lazy way to address the issue, such as it is.

    1. Then vote for city county councilors who will fix it. They have a primary next month and an election in November.

      If only Freeman was as passionate about getting Indianapolis it’s fair share of road funding as he was telling Indianapolis what it was allowed to do. What’s astronomically dumb is fighting the best way to fix our roads – adding bus lines which come with federal funding that fixes the entire roads, plus sidewalks – while not delivering the state dollars to do the same thing.

  10. It’s always amazing (in a sad, scary kind of way) to see what topics get attention and regulation compared to what topics get ignored or defended against regulation.

  11. Ok maybe Freeman does sound silly but no turn on red is just as dumb. First it was the 25mph now no turn on red. They may as well just ban people from driving downtown. And for those of you that walk downtown and say you almost get run over- changing it to no turn on red is not going to stop that because people just don’t care anymore.

    1. You’re right. No turn on red signs won’t make pedestrians much safer downtown. You need to combine them with red light cameras so people are penalized for breaking the law. IMPD is incapable of enforcing traffic laws, so it’s time for technology to help. I’ve never seen more dangerous red light runners in any city than I have in Indianapolis. Whenever I come back to visit, it’s shocking how long I have to wait to go when a light turns green because everyone is busy running the red light.

    2. Wesley, the problem with cameras is that under existing state law all revenue generated from them would go to the state, so locals have zero incentive to invest in the technology.

  12. I thought democrats are all about climate change? Tell me how having thousands of cars sitting at stoplights, idling daily will help their cause? Do you really think this will be enforced by officers? If passed, this will go over as well as the texting/handsfree calling law.

    1. Preventing pedestrians from dying by driver’s not paying attention isn’t anti-climate. The whole movement to protect the environment and mitigate climate change is centered around keeping humans alive. You save more lives having cars idling Downtown vs pedestrians getting run over by cars. You’re right about IMPD being too incompetent to enforce this law though. Indianapolis will have to get red light cameras for any of this to work.

  13. Anything that impedes traffic downtown is bad for downtown business. The more difficult you make it to drive in downtown, the more you are discouraging people who live outside of downtown to pcome and patronize downtown restaurants. The majority of people who come downtown, still drive there. If you make it more time consuming to drive downtown, people will not switch to the bus, they just won’t come.

    1. People who feel this way never liked going Downtown to begin with. These people only come to the city for things like concerts, sports, or work. I have never met someone in Carmel who quit going Downtown because of bike or bus lanes, that enjoyed spending time there previously. Downtown Indy is one of the fastest growing areas of the State. It’s more important to focus on the growing residential base than suburban or rural visitors. People who live Downtown don’t enjoy almost being killed by cars while walking to Kroger. This proposal isn’t controversial to people who live in the neighborhood.

  14. Was Freeman bullied as a child? He is unnecessarily inflammatory in his comments and name calling. In any case, this Indy resident who drives downtown would welcome this change. I want to keep safe those using other modes of transportation and I appreciate any help I can get in doing so as numbers of pedestrians (both locals and convention visitors/tourists) and cyclists increase downtown. More modes of transportation are great for the city, and what’s good for Indianapolis is advantageous for the state as a whole. Thanks to the City Council for advancing this plan. No thanks to the Indiana Senate.

  15. So the best argument Freeman can muster is that the proposal is “dumb” and “stupid”? Typical Retrumplican hypocrisy – we believe in the sanctity of life before birth but afterwards you are on your own. Road safety be damned, we’ve got places to be!

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