Carmel council tables GOAT’s petition to reopen for additional city staff review

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8 thoughts on “Carmel council tables GOAT’s petition to reopen for additional city staff review

  1. How hard is this? Rich kid ignored the rules, got caught, and now repeatedly trying to change the rules. If he has $ to hire an attorney for his temper tantrum, he has $ to install more bathrooms. Sadly, he will probably win. Guessing Brainard is hiding from this one.

  2. The bar is in the middle of a commercial district, why would it not be rezoned to commercial? The downtown Carmel area is bustling with activity, it’s only a matter of time before houses in the area are converted to high-density condos.

    1. I 1000% agree. How is this any different than the Sun King Plaza across the street. You can see one from the other in a direct line of sight without squinting.

    1. Richard B- then how do you explain ALL of the the commercial development there? What about 3UP? A rooftop bar open rather late. Or is that exempt because it is higher end? It’s just a bunch of NIMBY’s pissed off that younger people are having fun.

      You want quiet and private? Shouldn’t build right off of MAIN STREET….

  3. “The city, after reviewing the property’s zoning, realized it had overlooked the fact that the bar’s operations were outside of the special-use variances.”

    The city is at fault. By their own rules, they never should have allowed this business to operate in the first place. Therefore the city is responsible for either (a) changing the rules to allow them to operate how they want, (b) paying for the necessary changes to make the business comply, assuming those are feasible, or (c) making a settlement to close the business and compensate the owners accordingly.

    Clearly the community doesn’t want (a), and the business doesn’t want to pivot to something that would meet (b). Therefore, the only way out is (c).

    What will likely happen is that the owners will keep on the city and file a lawsuit, and eventually get their settlement. That is, if the owners don’t run out of money first.

    1. PREACH! Maybe the owner of the GOAT is a spoiled little brat as some say. Maybe they got away with a mistake. But the mistake was not theirs. It was the City of Carmel. Make the owner whole for the wrongdoing. Be it a variance in the zoning, improvements or legal action, as a city, they have to own up

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