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There are some business and institutions that just eat the neighborhood around them. Examples that come to mind are the Children’s Museum, Eli Lilly Corporate headquarters, and now the Colts. Eli Lilly has recently given back some of their land in the form of a park, so kudos to them.
Luckily there was not much lost in this case, but it does change the character of the city.
Not really a change in the character of the city, since according to the article this land was already being used for game day parking by third-party companies. It is just changing who is in control of the property, and could be an improvement in the management and maintenance of those lots.
Eli Lilly also owned the land underneath what is now Buckingham’s CityWay and the South Street Y. They also sold the old Wood HS campus to Rolls Royce, who in turn sold a bunch of it for the Union 525 and related developments. The fact is, Lilly is divesting downtown real estate, not expanding its footprint. And to the extent that its well-paid employees and retirees are also Colts season ticketholders, they provide additional game-day parking that the team doesn’t have to provide.
Lilly Recreation Park? Not really giving back. The park is not open to the public.
I bet if you follow the money you will find that we, the taxpayers, will pay for those 9 acres, not Irsay.
Irsay will surely develop the land and ask for taxpayer assistance.
Remember when building this new stadium was going to create a new, vibrant “Stadium Village” neighborhood on nearby parcels such as these? Man, that worked out so splendidly, what a great use of our tax dollars.
8 games a year doesn’t drive much “vibrancy” that’s for sure. Let’s remember this when the Colts demand upgrades to LOS in a few years.
As owner of Shapiro’s and chairman of Stadium Village Business development committee, we have grown organically. 16 Tech got $125M in TIF money and full time group of architects and planners. The Southside gets crumbs. Imagine what could be done with Madison Ave given the existing infrastructure, but so far no money has been allocated. We need quality of life amenities for local residents to use and enjoy. How do you build a community without locals? The residents provide a sense of place and help make a place safe. However, we have two hotels that are near completion, we have TWG building a market rate apartment building with some affordable units mixed in, we have BWI tearing down the old apartment building at Meridian and Morris. I am worried that we will be a healthcare desert when IU Medical moves to the Methodist campus/16 Tech. The gas station convenient stores are selling unhealthy food at a marked up price which gives the locals less disposable income. The Pacers need to invest with local youths for their basketball camps instead of having to travel to Westfield, but the city also has to participate with the local youths and not just to public photo shoots. So, I agree with the many of the comments but people need to offer ideas and solutions.
Madison Ave? Who would want to spend any time there? Every time I so much as drive through Madison I duck to avoid stray bullets. It would take billions of dollars and decades to make that area even remotely habitable.
As for “gas stations”, no one is forcing anyone to buy the marked up food. Personal decisions have consequences. Sadly, some Americans are trying to change that, but at least for now it’s half true.
Thanks for your thoughts Brian. Just curious, do you know if there’s a link for the BWI proposal at Meridian and Morris? The old building there is nothing special architecturally, but it does have perfectly good street engagement and I would hope that any replacement would offer the same.
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As for Madison Avenue, I remain convinced that the lack of contiguity between Madison south of McCarty and north of McCarty not only creates confusion in terms of the naming, but is a serious missed opportunity for a rebranding. In short, the four-block stretch northward, radiating from the I-70 exit ramp, should get renamed and better calibrated for pedestrians. Maybe an honorary street after a celebrated Indianapolis figure? At any rate, I wrote an obscure little article about this several years ago, and most of it still holds true: https://dirtamericana.com/2012/07/madison-gateway-navigational-confusion/
Maybe they should end Unigov and the south side would do better?
Only way the south side will do better is if the residents of the south side start acting like civilized human beings.
Yeah how nice. Ask the employees that work there how far they have to walk in the snow sleep rain hot sun to get to work nice that there’s parking lots for everyone else but they don’t treat their employees very well.
Not a single reference in the article to Babe Denny, the name of this neighborhood (or what’s left of it). Those little single-family homes have been getting whittled away at a rapid clip since Lucas Oil Stadium went up. I’ll confess that it was hardly a thriving area, but what hosted about 40 or 50 late 19th and early 20th century homes as recently as 2005 now has probably less than a dozen. Let us remember that Chatham Arch was hardly a thriving area in the 1970s, but it clearly took a completely different trajectory.
These acquisitions no doubt anticipate either additional demolitions or destruction through neglect, all for the sake of “a more consistent parking experience” for a game day that happens less than 10 times a year. Very nice. Stadium Village indeed.