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Would love to know what really happened between Mack and Kinney the last 2 years.
Cliff note version: Kinney “bought” a bar with a contract on a post it note from Mack who didn’t actually own the bar. Kinney paid hundreds of thousands, Bales actually owned the place. Hilarious stuff.
Mack did own the bar (not the building/land) and that is what Kinney bought. Kinney thought he was buying the bar AND the building/land. The price tag did not warrant a bar, building and land at that location though so Kinney should have been wiser on that front. Whether or not Mack misled him about that is another matter.
Josh, I was right there with you until the last point. “…Kinney should have been wiser on that front.” is a very large understatement. Who buys a business on a one-pager executed on a high-top without any legal review? Someone who’s dad is rich and who is likely naïve, at best. I don’t know if Mack misled him – presumably verbal discussions about the matter of a significant business transaction hold no weight when there is a writing – unless, perhaps, there were disinterested parties that could testify as to the discussions. Or, if there was something in the agreement that is misleading, in which case I’m sure Chuck would have had problems when litigated.
Nothing to know.
Chuck Mack has always been far more above board than 99.9% of bar proprietors I have ever known. Chuck did everything in good faith when he sold the bar (he never claimed to own the property, NOR did he sell anything with the property included)to someone not so honorable.
Back in the day Chuck never started or wanted any problems after Moe passed. All he wanted to do was solve all the issues surrounding the Bulldog at the time and keep Moe’s dream alive.
Hope the new Bulldog continues to have the same great vibe we’ve enjoyed throughout all the years.
When is the bar opening back up?
“The trio said they hope to open the bar in May”
Glad to see the old bulldog name is back on that corner. Chuck Mack and Mary Jane (I think Moe the original bulldog owner’s widow) used to run it back in the 1990s when I worked as a dishwasher along with Peter Dinwiddie the NBA genius with two brains (he was a cook back then). I remember the old staff at the bulldog pulled a strike when Chuck gained control from Mary Jane maybe in 1996 or 1997. Chuck took over ownership, which removed the bulldog name because Mary Jane had those rights. The staffers on strike in support of Mary Jane were promptly fired and replaced by Chuck Mack. Some of those people had worked there for decades. Bye bye Chuck and hello Bulldog. – Chaz
Looking forward to stepping back into this great establishment and relive old memories. Congratulations!!
The new operation is as much the old Bulldog as Fresh Market is the old Atlas Supermarket.
We don’t know yet because it’s not open, bus suspect you are correct
Oh my gosh, .. as usual so many opinions. I will say Chuck W – you need to do some more research because you have no idea what you’re talking about. Josh and Randy – you do basically have the correct narrative. Both parties were stupid for drawing up a contract on a cocktail napkin. Chaz you worked there so maybe you know more than me, but the rift between Mo’s family and Chuck Mac was not Chuck’s doing, and I think he was pretty much on the up and up, to the point where he honored Mo, his longtime partner, by putting his name on the building. My two cents.
How do I not know what I am talking about? My paragraph is a summary that Josh and Randy added more details to, but please direct me to the source where I can do my “additional research”. I don’t know either player, but from public info, articles, and even these comments, Mack strikes me as a street smart hustler and Kinney’s only attribute is being born a rich kid. We will probably never know, but would love to know the details of the settlement. Also, who in the world is financially backing Kinney this time around?
Yup, shoulda’ had an attorney involved, but . . . I’m more interested in seeing what kind of food John Bales thinks is as good or better than what we can already get in the area.
Larry my understanding is that Levi did have an attorney involved in the form of a partner’s father. It would seem to me that any attorney involved in the purchase / sale would have reviewed records to determine if, in fact, the building, liquor license, etc were included in the sale. Doesn’t appear that legal due diligence was done regarding the purchase.
Pretty sure Bales isn’t interested in having control over the menu.
Chuck – I apologize. I could have said that in a more polite manner. Don.