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I’m guessing not a single cop who has left IMPD has done so because they decided that they “didn’t want to work for him.” What a ridiculous statement. As with any job, police officers leave for numerous reasons, including retirement. Moreover, following the murder of George Floyd and the effects of the pandemic, policing simply is no longer considered a favorable career choice. As a result, police agencies across the country are struggling with staffing. Shreve hasn’t come up with a single original idea but instead just thinks we should vote for him on the trust that he can do better. Given his lack of any real plan – he just mimics the Mayor’s plan – he’s done nothing to gain that trust.
Thumbs up! This makes sense to me. Teachers, I think adjacent to police officers in the sense of service work to the community, have had their industry affected in similar ways. The state is doing good things for teachers (streamlining the standards, re-fabbing ILEARN), but still, too many are leaving for various other reasons.
A lot of people have answers as to why its been so difficult to recruit and maintain police officers. Is it pay, leadership, personal risk, stress, work life balance, career advancement opportunities, public perception, better career opportunities? You can’t solve a problem unless you know what it truly is. Maybe some funds should be allocated to doing some effective research into the real causes and drivers of this problem. Listening to peoples perceptions and political slant will not lead to actual solutions and potentially result in more damaging actions. As usual the solution to the un-asked question is whatever you want it to be.
These are all valid and honest questions that need to be answered. I think Greg hits a lot of the points about why retention for police officers is so terrible, and this isn’t a problem that is unique to Indy. The most likely answer is that it’s a myriad of problems, a little from each column, combined with the notoriously fraternal internal cultures of police departments that are making policing a less and less attractive career choice.
Many of them left due to his mismanagment. Hogsett’s focus on recruiting new versus a fucus on recriuiting new and retention is a classic example of of Hogsett’s mismanagment. Shreve has a plan for doing both. So Robert…I have noticed a pattern in your posts! You are full of factless views…just opinions. Visit Shreve’s website…do a little homework and actually state something that is truth! Here is nice fact for you! When Ballard left office the violent crime solve rate was over 80%. Today it is 35%. Hogsett is in charge of public safety. He publically stated if the there is failure in the area….he is responsible. Clearly….he has failed on multiple fronts! It is time for a change. Vote Shreve for Mayor!
Many of them left due to his mismanagment. Hogsett’s focus on recruiting new versus a fucus on recriuiting new and retention is a classic example of of Hogsett’s mismanagment. Shreve has a plan for doing both. Visit Shreve’s website…do a little homework and actually see what Shreve has planned. Here is nice fact for you! When Ballard left office the violent crime solve rate was over 80%. Today it is 35%. Hogsett is in charge of public safety. He publically stated if the there is failure in the area….he is responsible. Clearly….he has failed on multiple fronts! It is time for a change. Vote Shreve for Mayor!
Some of us are all for a change. It takes a certain kind of desperation … to assume a political novice who won his first ever election by outspending everyone in the primary is the change that is needed.
(He was appointed to the Council twice and lost to Sandlin in his run for the Senate. I don’t believe he ran for the Council on his own but if he did, he wasn’t successful there either.)
We are almost dead in line with turnover/retirement statistics for police departments across the nation for cities our size…. This feels like a hyperbolic issue that we are experiencing as a society, not just a city
The hilarious degree of mental gymnastics necessary to rationalize the homicide increase really does give credence to the H.L. Mencken statement: “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” Guess the one fallacy in that statement is “common people”–it’s the remarkable well-bred people who want the chaos they’re getting, as long as it doesn’t happen in their back yards. The REAL common people today know that the upper-crust are a bunch of delusional sick puppies.
Given that most people who read the IBJ are upper-middle and upper-income whites, it should be no surprise taht they have the “luxury beliefs” that help them come to the conclusion that a) policing is no longer an honorable profession, b) that police are the primary source of rot and not the criminals themselves, c) that Joe Hogsett has integrity, d) that Black Lives Matter still has credibility outside of their echo chamber (you know you’re in a rich white urban neighborhood because they’re the only ones with a prevalence of BLM signs), e) that most middle class areas (not where the BLM signs still are) aren’t also feeling the devastating effects of crime increase already plaguing the ‘hood, to which the posh neighborhoods are still blissfully unaware.
And the people paying the price for it are voting against it but getting out voted by out-of-touch progressives. If it’s this bad in Indy, I guess it explains why it’s so much worse in West Coast cities with a history for this boutique activist nonsense, from people who have no idea how hard it is for most Americans–who are, by definition of being middle class, about six paychecks away from destitution. Luxury beliefs, one and all.
Keep on voting for who you have always voted and, you’ll keep on getting what you’ve always got. Where was Hogsett when Indianapolis needed him? In hiding of course. He is a true politician. Changes his stance if it can buy him votes.
Tell us you listen to WIBC without telling us you listen to WIBC.
Joe B: Tell us you think you’re morally, culturally, and intellectually superior without telling us you think you’re morally, culturally, and intellectually superior.
It must be exasperating to have to share oxygen with so many trumpy people, outside of that enlightened Indy core. White southerners felt the same way in the 1960s, having to co-exist around the people they believed to be intrinsically inferior to them. It’s good that the architecture of one political party was so amenable to helping them assert their divinely ordained superiority, up to and including at the voting booths.
I agree with Republicans that Indianapolis is heading for a fiscal cliff on infrastructure.
But as long as the city doesn’t even get back its share of tax revenue, because it gets sent to places in Indiana where no one wants to live, the blame belongs with Statehouse Republicans, not the city of Indianapolis.
And as long as Marion County Republicans continue to sell out their constituents, it will be a problem. Because there are enough Marion and donut county Republicans, along with the handful of Democrats they’ve allowed to exist at the Statehouse, to fix the funding issue. They’re just too cowardly to do so.
More emphasis needs to be put on the $45 million in increased property and income tax revenues over last year, which is a strong indicator that Indianapolis and Marion County are growing and thriving.
Don’t say that out loud, the Republicans at the Statehouse will figure out some way to redirect that money elsewhere too.
Fascinating what an election year will do to someone who has done nothing but turned a blind eye to reality up until this year. He is a worthless dweeb.