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If that’s the case for the site, then sounds like the bridge shouldn’t be built either.
There has to be something going on at the GM site for this to be going on.
What would any other major city look like if no one ever developed over cemeteries? The site has already been developed for over a century! The hypocrisy with the bridge is so blatant. What’s the real story between Hogsett and Ersal?
Very good question.
You bring up some very intriguing points and the part about what’s really going on with the mayor and Ersal is the million $$ question we all want to know…….
Ersal had a golden ticket with Ballard and has bought off most of the legislature as well, with his few critics like Luke Kenley retired. Its probably mostly politics mixed with some real concerns that Keystone is not up to the task for this major development.
^^^^^ Matt wins the truth prize.
Too bad the city didn’t retain the option to designate which acre they would reserve for the bridge project. Seems like they picked the worst place as it relates to how many people are buried there.
I’m sure our ancestors who forged their way through dense Indiana woods to create the foundation of our city would be against a 20 acre park in such a prime location that’s poised for once in a generation development. Reference the partnership announcement today by Purdue and Elanco. This site is the key to connecting the Elanco Campus to downtown and with a potential major impact to the underutilized white river waterway that could further tie in the Zoo and Victory Field. Reactionary, short term vision again by Joe.
No doubt. The guy is not a leader, he’s a “johnny come too late to the party”, elected by the dominant Democratic portion of our city who doesn’t seem to understand that we need a mayor to just do his job and lead this city. Mayor Hogsett has not value outside of his elected position so I suspect we’ll see him bring his “ideas” too late to the table again and again for several more terms.
Or: finally, someone asks a developer to prove he can finance a project. And: Another “or”: we can’t be paving over burial sites. Especially graves where we buried black folks long ago. It’s disrespectful and unnecessary.
This was reported by IBJ on 4/26, so why should anyone believe Hogsett wants to use the site as a memorial? Why isn’t this being referenced as part of the reporting on the city attempting to buy the Diamond Chain property? “Hogsett identified two potential sites: the former Diamond Chain manufacturing site on the southwest side of downtown where Indianapolis-based Keystone Group, owned by Indy Eleven majority owner Ersal Ozdemir, has been planning the $1.5 billion Eleven Park stadium district; and at the site of the Downtown Heliport on the east side of downtown.”
Right, the Mayor said they offered two potential sites to MLS with one being the former Diamond Chain site. They are lying through their teeth. Taking the Hogsett administration’s word on anything is risky business these days. They are playing political games right now. It’s unseemly.
Another reactionary move by a mayor with no vision. He has been treading water for years now and we continue to let him ruin our once vibrant downtown. Our city needs stronger leadership!
City will probably pull the eminent domain crap to steal the property from Keystone. Keystone better get their appraisal of its property because the 2 the City gets will be a couple of low-ball jokes.
Maybe honoring history with a mall monument at the entrance would honor past ,present and future. Leaving it undeveloped is obsurd to growth and honor to past and present.
John M.
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To not develop that prime piece of land as a connector to Elanco, White River
State Park, and the zoo is extremely short sighted.
High Rise Apartments and retailing would be a great fit for a portion of
that property. The views and the proximity to the stadiums and the other
amenities is to good to pass up.
Why is everyone so sympathetic to Oz? He owns the property and the team so go ahead and build it. Guess what? He can’t finance w/o more subsidies from the City. Is that so hard to grasp?!
Yeah, he’s a weasel. He doesn’t have city’s best interests in mind. His developments are always overbudgeted crap, and always come up short in so many ways. Just saw a commercial on all this. Unbelievable. This will not end well. Oz is killing the city’s chances of landing an MLS team. He is shameless.
Yeah, especially since the city pulled the run out from under him…
I’m reading lots of comments supporting Oz and chastising Hogsett. That’s what I mean by sympathetic.
The City backed away when the deal was deemed uneconomic to the City. I don’t think that’s pulling the rug out from under it. Oz can still build but he now knows the site will be prohibitively expensive (and probably difficult to finance even w/o the cemetery issue).
As far as transparency, do you know whether NDAs exist and prevent the City from making the details public?
They should make the development equitable and it should include an open bar only open to the mayor and his staff.
If there was such a big problem with remains on this site, how come we didn’t shut down Diamond Chain? How come we re-zoned the area? This is getting stupid. I think the whole “there are remains on the site”, and “MLS won’t build on this site” is just more smoke screen to devalue the property so the City can grab it at a lowball price.
Too many stupid and just barely believable things are being said here from the city. I will have to hand it to the Mayor, at least he remembered that a good lie always has some little kernel of truth to it.
But really, I have no idea what the truth might be, at least not with a subpoena of all of the city emails on the subject.
If Mayor Hogsett wants to have a mid-life crisis, he should just save the taxpayers the time, trouble and money and go buy a Porsche!
On April 25, the Mayor did save the taxpayers time, trouble and lots of money. The irony is not lost that most of the Oz supporters here would be the first to complain about high taxation and misuse of tax dollars.
Let’s face it , the mayor has something against keystone and this is his way of getting back at them. Did keystone not pay a kickback to the mayor! Idiot Joe, way to look out for the city development. Just think of the number of people that will be coming to our city because we have a park! Tourism will be on the rise!
Are you serious, Patrick D? Ridiculous comment about the Mayor.
Any consideration to the thought that our city was approached by a qualified owner to bring an MLS team?
Any consideration to the thought that the current ownership may not get a bid for a team?
This seems very reminiscent of when the Waterside Project went south and the City threatened eminent domain take the land away from Ambrose Property Group.
Wrong answer. Move the remains and build.
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The potential of that site is far to great just to leave it idle.
That literally is the last large piece of undeveloped property
downtown.
Bosh. It’s not even the last large undeveloped parcel in the Stadium neighborhood. See: Valspar/Lilly Industrial Coatings site and the new “truck marshaling yard and staging area” for LOS.
the area is perfect for redevelopment especially a stadium. Hogsett is really coming off as snake.