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That’s all we need is Joe Hogsett leading the economic demise of adjoining counties as he has demonstrated with his lack of leadership regarding downtown Indianapolis
I have only screwed up the 17th largest city in the United States and think I can negatively impact the 8 doughnut counties just as effectively of course with the help of the governor.
Stay in your basement and leave us alone.
Hogsett wants more collaboration with doughnut counties on COVID.
“Currently, Marion County is the only one in the metro with any public-health restrictions in place.”
I’m sure the doughnut counties are fully willing to let Hogsett collaborate with them on a “regional approach” to open up Marion County if he wants to.
He wants to destroy the doughnut counties as well.
Too little, too late. Don’t tread on the counties that are taking all the Marion County business because of your political fear-mongering. I can personally attest that Carmel and Fishers businesses are thriving with Marion County residents’ money and have been for 3-4 months now. We all know the dangers of the virus now. High-risk and elderly stay home. Young and healthy live your lives responsibly. Onward. Doughnut counties win; Marion County loses.
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So he wants to extend his tyranny, no. It is a flu virus. It can’t be stopped. Efforts have been able to slow it down to allow medical to keep up, but cases will rise, especially with more testing. Cases are the big buzzword now that deaths have come way down. CASES CASES CASES, BE AFRAID, PANIC!
Wish there was a way to impeach this feckless coward. He and his political hack buddies have run Indy into the ground.
you have that right
maybe you should focus on crime instead – record homicides with 60 days to go…
Marion county needs to riot against, Joe and the dip$hits at the health dept.
I agree with every statement above. Hogsett is a coward and an idiot, don’t forget the riots where he gave stand down orders.
Joe seems like a nice guy in person but he’s out of his league, way over his head as Mayor. So is the current City-County Council. This is why he’s asking for ‘collaboration’ both on crime and COVID. The city is sinking quickly and it is heartbreaking to watch – especially the lack of resolve among city “leaders” to clean up downtown, let alone save lives in nearby neighborhoods that hear gunfire every night. I wish I had a blank check to support the businesses and community-focused non-profits trying to keep this city afloat until a vaccine is readily available.
Oh wow, the anti-mask folks are out in the comments section this morning! Marion County has a lower case rate than the rest of the State as a whole. Shame on the mayor for wanting his citizens to not die from a mismanaged pandemic? Lol. If you’re all so sad about business restrictions that aren’t even strict, you need to knock on the White House door complain to your President. He is the reason we are in this mess. There is a virus. It isn’t going away right now. Look at the whole country and the world to see what’s happening. Just open your eyes. I can’t wait for Biden to be President. Hopefully he imposes national restrictions so all of you don’t get the rest of us sick.
And of course, right after I typed that Indiana breaks another record for Covid-19 cases. 3,649 cases. Stage 5 is going super well, right? Hospitalizations are also up…
With 99.9% survivability the “choice” you purport between dying and locking down is simply hysterical hyperbole. Congratulations to Marion County on the lower case rate! You win that contest. Yay!! Meanwhile, our local economies in the doughnut counties are flourishing and most everyone is doing quite well. For us, we have not created a cure worse than the problem.
Do the math, MG. 96.4%, not 99.9%. And it is one of the handful of leading causes of death in the US, up from zero last year.
It all be over on Wednesday the 4th, that is when the next scandal dejour starts the 2nd faux impeachment. No one understands the real numbers we are being given. There are cases of people that did the paper work that didn’t get test turning up positive, and cases of people in hospice care that were at end of life, test positive and listed as C-19 deaths. And if you test positive more than once are you 1 case, 2 cases or more? Once the Indiana Department of Health wants to provide accurate data with research level details we have no idea what we getting. The best indicator we have is C-19 ICU beds and C-19 ventilator use. 24.1 and 5.6 respectively. But even with that we need to understand the additional comorbidities that may be in play. Think for yourself people and turn the idiot box off.
This will be his legacy in how he reacted to Covid, the riots, and continued business restrictions. So sad how pathetic he and other politicians reacted. I guarantee you if he had ever owned just one business,he never would have castrated the business owners like he did. You actually would have had to have known the pain and risk already on a business owner during the good times before knowing how to lead during difficult times like Covid and the negligent and criminal decisions he gave during the riots. YOU DESERVE THIS LEGACY JOE AND YOU DUG YOUR OWN POLITICAL GRAVE.
The mayor is a nice guy–I have met him on several occasions over the years and we share a lot of mutual acquaintances. However, he is trained attorney and may lack the firsthand ability to evaluate conjoint scientific and economic data, which is acceptable. However, he surrounded himself with people who also won’t or don’t perform said analysis. I believe that this has driven remarkably poor policy decisions on the mayor’s part. Look at the NY Times Indiana Covid map and case count on a per-capita basis. Marion County has 2,760 cases per 100,000 people. Hamilton County has 1,945. Hendricks County has 2,060. Johnson count has 2,145. Boone County has 1,981, etc. Marion County is at about 20% greater in cases per 100,000 residents than the doughnut counties, despite the remarkable limitations that the mayor has installed. Population density does not appear to matter. Fort Wayne, the second largest city in the state, has a greater population density per square mile than Indianapolis and has a case rate per 100,000 that is about 15% lower. Here’s the canary in the coal mine for the mayor: when Huse Culinary, arguably one of the top restaurant operators in the region, can’t work through the pandemic under the mayor’s orders with Burger Study, what does that mean for the less successful restaurant operators? They are gone. Look at the retail and restaurant vacancies across the city–even the wealthier parts of the city around 86th street and Meridian. Why don’t you see the same outcomes in the doughnut counties? Drive the major thoroughfares in Fishers Carmel, Noblesville, Brownsburg or Greenwood. They are bustling. The administrative mandates coming from the mayor’s office are the observable difference. Why would any administrator in the doughnut counties rationally want to follow the mayor’s lead, particularly when objective data analysis indicates the abject failure of the mayor’s approach? However, if the mayor wants to take lessons from the doughnut counties, he has my support to do that.
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No doubt involving the doughnut counties with Hogsett’s numb skull leadership is step one. Step two will be to include them in some tax scheme to fund all his other failed policies. Just go away Joe. And stay in your cave.
I see the right-wing lunatics are out in force today.
They sure are!
They sure are! Aren’t they suppose to be “working” from home?
Stay the heck out of our counties. Just because were neighbors doesn’t give you a right to park your junk cars in my backyard.
Joe just wants the donut counties to be equally as miserable as Marion. He continues to tank the small business owner and wants donut counties to do the same. Nice try.
Uncle joe is broke and this is the first attempt to get his trunk under the tent for money. This guy is radio active. Touch him and your toast. Joe stay the hell away.
He waited 8 months realize they should be working together? Leave Hamilton County out of your problems.
Don’t people in Hamilton Co. actually need Marion Co. for their jobs?…
I don’t understand this. If people are afraid to eat out because they are getting sick and dying, the doughnut counties are going to suffer anyway. The question become, how many people do you let die.
Losing 8% of your population through a deadly disease is going cause a world of economic hurt. That is part of why the stock market is tanking now. Loss of population causes huge economic contractions.
Dan, the fallacy in your reasoning is that 8% of the population is not actually dying. The death rate across the measured population is not even close to 8%. You may find value in researching this and updating your views accordingly.
Michael P., you replied to Dan M. much more diplomatically than I would have.
Are you kidding me Dan?? What kind of lies are you peddling and hysterics do you seek to drum up? Your thought process is astonishingly illogical and fraught with outright falsehoods.
We won’t lose 8% of the population, but his point is accurate. Losing people causes economic problems. Look at Japan’s economic issues due to low birth rates. The more we lose, the worse it gets for everyone economically, and obviously personally. There’s also economic damage caused from the long term health effects of the disease. There’s also the fact that the US is now losing more of it’s citizens to other countries than before. Don’t worry, I’ll be one of those leaving if Trump wins. Then you guys can keep making America great on your own. I’ll make sure to renounce my citizenship though so you can’t keep milking my tax dollars.
Good stuff wesley. Your TDS is quite serious. Makes me laugh
I’m glad you get a laugh from it man. It’s not TDS though. It’s just facing the reality of how bad of a place our country is in. That’s all. Just observing behavior and statistics.
Per the JAMA (for what ever that is worth) global deaths in the last 12 months are on par with previous years. So the question is, are more people dying because of C-19 or just being labeled as C-19?
Although total US death counts are remarkably consistent from year to year, US deaths increased by 20% during March-July 2020. COVID-19 was a documented cause of only 67% of these excess deaths. JAMA 10-12-20
We are thinking of moving out of Marion County to escape the violence and the half-witted dictator/mayor. Why be the last ones in a ghost town?
Don’t worry, someone will buy your house and you’ll make a significant amount of money because demand for Marion County homes is extremely high. Won’t be a ghost town, you’ll just be replaced with more liberal neighbors.
Great, Wesley; you are going to leave if Trump wins? Promise? How many liberal elites and Hollywood cry-babies said they would leave if Trump won in 2016? How many actually did so? Even one would be appreciated. And if you are so worried about “the more we lose” and our allegedly shrinking population, where do you stand on abortion on demand? We’ve killed over 60,000,000 United States citizens since 1973, many of whom could now be making significant contributions to our culture, yet you liberals endorse the practice and even expect taxpayers to finance it!
I am pro-choice but that is a darn good point
Well I wasn’t one of those people in 2016, I wanted to give the man a chance. He’s just simply failed at his job, and I don’t want to stick around for further destruction. Your abortion comment is illogical. Eggs and fetuses have never contributed to society. Sure, they may have the potential to had they been born, but the vast majority of abortions are preformed because of financial insecurity. The most impoverished members of society tend to not move up the social latter. That’s not an opinion, just a fact. It shouldn’t be, but that’s what the GOP did to the middle class in this country. So by your President’s definition, you’d probably call them all welfare queens if they were alive today. There’s a difference between termination of a pregnancy and an adult human dying unnecessarily. If you can’t see the difference, that’s on you.
To change the subject, last time I looked Hamilton county had the highest COVID-19 increases. So much for Carmel, Noblesville and Fishers for doing their virus prevention job.
Joe, haven’t you done enough harm in Marion County? Downtown is a disaster and it’s not going to come back for years. I live in Hamilton County and work in Downtown Indy, but I never leave my building. Please just leave the doughnut counties alone.
When Pothole and Virginia have taken pay cuts and furloughed personal staff, maybe we can have a conversation. Until then take your chicken nuggets back to the kiddie table.
Sorry, Wesley, but your logic fails. You have no way of knowing what a given child may “turn out” to be; read the history of Dr. Ben Carson’s life for an excellent example. Talk about a racist slant; your post bleeds it. To your closing statement, in both cases, a human being dies, period. If you can’t see that difference, that’s on you…not to mention the damage done to a culture that blatantly ignores the God-given responsibility to protect the most innocent among us. Some day, that might include you in your old age.