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How many of these new deaths and hospitalizations are related to unvaccinated patients?
I continue to be amazed every day that this info is not available. It’s like the government and healthcare industry are trying to out stupid each other.
They can’t reply. They only seem to care if you are unvaccinated. I was in the hospital for 20 days and this was in September. Even then on most days the numbers admitted to ICU were about 50/50. On three days there were more vaccinated people going in than unvaccinated.
Without treatments it can only get worse. For over a century we have always looked for and found treatments; now we don’t seem to care. Vaccines are not treatment, they are preventative medicine, but if that doesn’t work (which it is becoming obvious they are not) what then?
So, Neil D., you say you were in the hospital for a long period of time and were getting daily updates on the vaccination status of your fellow patients? Really? Who was giving you this so-called data, because it certainly wasn’t the hospital or anyone in the know. I call BS on this attempt to misinform.
Neil, your story sounds a bit fabricated. Vaccines do work…they greatly reduce (not eliminate) the risk of hospitalization and serious illness. Suggesting otherwise is factually false and a disservice to others.
See the media sickness & death meter is back up & running. I guess fear sells ad space.
And yet here you are……
Only here to make a point. I generally ignore this stuff.
It’s difficult to feel sorry for people who get sick that are not vaccinated, these people are why it’s out of control again with another variant. Indiana is the most unsafe State. Not sure why Holcomb is not addressing this.
Thank you for the update IBJ! It’s clearly important that your readers get this information since many of them are in denial.
Anyone dying out there? Seriously. Anyone dying without co-morbidity? Anyone under 70? Asking for a friend.
Grade schoolers coming to emergency rooms with broken bones or an appendectomy with Covid still being counted as Covid hospitalizations? Fauci says so.
If the vaccine is so effective, why is COVID spreading like wildfire in the vaccinated? Why is it spreading with people wearing masks? Only a fraction has boosters, are they catching it less fast? Hospitalized less often?
Why are there no tests? Why is Fauci changing his mind about school closures? Why is the president? Why do kids have to wear masks in school? Has anyone under 18 every died from Covid, even with a precondition? Has anyone under 40 died from Covid without a pre-condition? Where are the flu deaths from last year? Show us the numbers, CDC. The real numbers. You can’t.
To answer your questions… yes, people without comorbidities are dying, although comorbidities certainly increase the risk. Yes, people under 70 are dying, in lower numbers, but certainly well before they would have died otherwise. No, people coming to the ER with broken bones are not being counted as COVID hospitalizations, and in fact don’t usually get admitted anyway. You are reciting a common piece of misinformation. Yes, the omicron variant is infecting vaccinated people, but at still lower rates than unvaccinated. And yes, those vaccinated are hospitalized far less often. Very rarely, in fact, by comparison. Vast majority in the hospital with COVID are unvaccinated. Why are there no tests? That IS a good question, a definite government failure to plan. Why do kids have to wear masks at school? Because they do, indeed, help prevent spread of COVID. Yes, they do. They are not perfect, but they help. Has anyone under 18 died of COVID? Yes. Not as many as in older groups, but yes. Anyone under 40? Absolutely. Seriously, every question you raise has an answer, most of which do not support whatever point you are trying to make. Give it up!
Ripped from the headlines:
“A deputy district attorney and up-and-coming Republican political star in California’s Orange County has died abruptly after telling friends she contracted COVID-19.
Kelly Ernby…was only 46 years old.”
And unvaccinated.
Steve – your response is not accurate and full of anecdotal talking points from the media.
Ryan is asking for data, all of which is not transparent by the local hospitals or the CDC. If it was, the gig would be up.
Steve D….agree with your post. Thanks for putting out Ryan’s factless rant.
Steve, there’s no point.
It’s little wonder the state of Indiana only bothers to update the data weekly that shows the vast majority of people ending up in the hospital are the unvaccinated. Because you give it to the neighsayers and it doesn’t even register. They’ve got another 15 conspiracy theories ready to bloom, thanks to their conservative media silo where claims like “the vaccinated will have their heads explode any day now” live. They’ve done their own research, but they’re blind to how little they know, so it’s useless.
Omicron is here for them. The sooner they die on the sidewalks or in tents, the sooner this is all over for the rest of us.
To the people who want to believe that most of the people in the hospital with COViD would be in the hospital for unrelated reasons even if they didn’t have COViD, please explain why overall hospitalization/ICU numbers rise every time there is a rise in positive COViD tests. Please help us all make sense of this.
We swabbed over 200 today in Johnson Co. 78 positive. Few wear masks and multiple family members testing positive. One gets ill and no effort to quarantine at home. Some who bring others for testing but don’t test state “because, I don’t care”.
1 in 10 who come inside for vaccinations don’t wear a mask and appalled we tell them this is a medical facility inside a Masonic Home with nearby high-risk patients and masks are required.
Not surprising. I get looks when going out in public in JoCo (always with a mask on).
But surely you’re aware of the low vax rate of Republicans generally…