Indiana reports another 6,844 COVID-19 cases, 22 more deaths

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1. Hey, Trumpsters! Wear your darn masks!

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2. Here is a number I’d like to see. How many of the people that test positive were following the CDC guidelines for masks and social distancing on a daily basis and got it anyway? Or what percentage of the cases do people admit they did not wear masks and so on? I guess in summary I’d like to know the effectiveness of masks in the real world with actual data from the hospitals or testing places.

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   1. Why are you so stubbornly against wearing a face mask, Tyler? Is it painful?

   2. Jennifer, ever heard of a screen door on a submarine? Think about that when face masks are the panacea

   3. Tyler, isn’t that impossible to figure out? I mean you can try and trust people to respond truthfully, but how many will actually admit that they broke guidelines? Additionally, CDC guidelines say that the State should have never entered Stage 5 reopening. The positivity rates were too high even in September. Holcomb just did it for political reasons. Therefore, it’s somewhat irrelevant in most of Indiana where most businesses had 0 capacity restrictions. Even if you wear your mask at a restaurant or bar while not eating or drinking, you cannot follow guidelines when the business is operating at 100% capacity. Especially when you spend 90% of your time there without a mask because eating and drinking are the point of the visit.

3. It is beyond belief that anyone in our local and State governments would allow this total disaster to continue unchecked. The State’s plan is too little and too late. The plan must be more aggressive and thorough. It is totally clear that the current administration does not have the internal medical expertise to make a decent plan to balance both health and the economy simultaneously. It appears that there is no group within our State that be willing to seriously confront the current administration to force it to make significant chances. Healthcare professionals, hospital systems, medical societies, etc. have been eerily silent.
   Even though I have written the following many times before, the basics remain the same. The citizenry of our State have to get the message again and again and again, etc. (Remember how long it took to get people to wear seat belts!!!!!!!!!!! The same craziness against seat belts is being used to avoid masks. Many of the same mistakes were made during the 1918 pandemic as well. Too bad history seems to be avoided in our schools at all levels.)
   New record numbers every day!!!! How many citizens are we going let get sick, and how many are we going let die? It really is as simple as that.
   However, let me try to understand the logic of the State response to the surging pandemic: Stage 5 is okay. Our focus, per Dr. Box, is to increase the amount of healthcare staff and healthcare capacity to take care of the increasing number of sick people. Oh by the way, please wear you mask, pretty please!! (I love it when Health Commissioner, who recently got over COVID-19 episode, has only this to offer to curb the raging pandemic in our State.
   As I have said before our State needs outside expertise (e.g. Dr. Anthony Fauci) to tell us citizens the REAL status of our State’s current plan to mitigate the pandemic of our State. The current “experts” from State outside of government (e.g. IU) have done little more than to create a bunch of numbers that are totally not understood by the common lay person.
   There needs to a ground swell of outrage from the medical community (i.e. hospital, physicians, medical organizations, nursing organization, pharmacists, etc.) to force a change in how our State is handling the pandemic.
   The State has the money to finance, through the Care ACT, to fund a more comprehensively plan to provide all the necessary tools (PPE, testing, contact tracing, etc.) to get the situation under control.
   A responsible government would be able to balance the economy AND public health. Indiana appears not to be able to multi-task. A responsible State government would be able to do both. (As a small business owner, I have lost at least 50% of my income for the year. I know the financial consequences of the pandemic. It took months as the beginning to obtain the necessary amount of PPE to keep my employees and customers safe. I have been able to keep the staff intact as well. However, one does not know what the future will bring)
   Hopefully, with the election over for the State, our local leaders will begin to multi-task. Frankly, I do not expect any progress. With the flu season beginning and with more indoor events, we need to expect that things are just going to get worse.
   Everyone for our State should realize that our current situation was avoidable. Letting things get worse by this State’s administration is UNCONSCIONABLE and INDEFENSIBLE.
   Everyone should re-watch the scene from “NETWORK” where Peter Finch gives a speech that still resonates today. Here is the YOUTUBE link:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

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4. Tyler M. It is time to come out of your bunker and read what the CDC and other health sources give the % of effectiveness of wearing face masks. You can google 50-80%, and I think Tyler hospitals are a little understaffed and busy trying to save lives right now to compile data for you. Wear your friggin mask, social distance, and don’t go anywhere or do anything you don’t have to do. It’s called an individual voluntary lockdown which we all need to be doing now to contain the spread of this virus. We can’t shut downtown again, but everyone can stop looking for magical data that will click for you. Do your part, trust Dr.Fauci, CDC, and health experts who have already proven wearing a mask and social distancing does work.😷

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   1. Exactly, Lorna!

   2. And Butler just OK’d for 25% capacity for their upcoming basketball season. Nuts.

5. By my math, we have 601 deaths in half the month of November (4,660 to date minus all the previous months’ tallies). That is terrible!

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   Where are all the Trumpsters who claimed this would not be an issue after Nov. 3? QAnon has apparently failed to issue new talking points.

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6. Lorna. The hospitals are too busy to get real time data as to the effectiveness of the preventative measures they suggest? If they have time to ask where you’ve been, who you have been in contact with, all of their phone numbers/emails then they have time to ask a yes or no question. So basically no one has real world numbers on mask effectiveness? Whats one of the first questions asked after an auto accident..were you wearing your seat belt? I never said masks don’t do anything, but Ill tell you what is outrageous criminal activity is allowing the average everyday people to have the impression the mask will keep you from getting covid. I can’t even count the number of people I have talked to that believe they can do anything they want long as they wear a mask and stay 6ft away from people. That is simply not true and gives people a false sense of security which in turn increases cases. You need to turn off CNN for a couple hours a day and do some real research. Keep your mask on while you and your cat watch tv at home, doesn’t bother me if people wear masks.
   The same CDC says “While
   research indicates masks may help those who are infected from spreading the
   infection, there is less information regarding whether masks offer any protection
   for a contact exposed to a symptomatic or asymptomatic patient. Therefore, the
   determination of close contact should be made irrespective of whether the person
   with COVID-19 or the contact was wearing a mask. Because the general public has
   not received training on proper selection and use of respiratory PPE, it cannot be
   certain whether respiratory PPE worn during contact with an individual with
   COVID-19 infection protected them from exposure. Therefore, as a conservative
   approach, the determination of close contact should generally be made irrespective
   of whether the contact was wearing respiratory PPE, which is recommended for
   health care personnel and other trained users, or a mask recommended for the
   general public.” CDC.gov
   Fauci, CDC,WHO, local leadders all go back and forth on what they think we should do and at one time or another they have been wrong. Lets just admit no one really knows exactly how to stop or control this thing for sure. And yes anyone can find hard scientific numbers that back up their beliefs. Reality check….it sure can’t hurt to wear a mask, but the effectiveness is not fully understood.

   I asked a completely reasonable question ” How many of the people that test positive were following the CDC guidelines for masks and social distancing on a daily basis and got it anyway? Or what percentage of the cases do people admit they did not wear masks and so on? I guess in summary I’d like to know the effectiveness of masks in the real world with actual data from the hospitals or testing places.” Too many people are under the impression that it is highly unlikely they can’t get or spread covid wearing a mask.

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7. Could we ask to not sacrifice our civil liberties and our livelihoods at the alter of Dr Fauci and the CDC. Both entities that could easily have hidden agendas. The government has done its job and alerted us to the dangers of this presumed virus out to get us all. Let us now use our God given common sense and reengsge in our lives, businesses, and world as we knew it. Viruses are and will always be around. Human mortality rate is still 100% eventually. People wake up and quit being sheep forever

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   1. My “God” given common sense tells me to wear my mask, get takeout or groceries only, wash my hands, and work from home. I’m not a sheep, just one of those people who believe in doctors. If anyone were a sheep, I think it’d be someone listening to Trump over Fauci. Only one of them has any expertise in the subject matter at hand.

8. Tyler, your last statement is the most important of all your above rhetoric. This is a great concern, and I fear also many people get a false sense of security wearing a mask. I have seen disposable masks dangling from car rear view mirrors which means they are being reused. I believe it was on a news station where they measured the amount and showed the count of bacteria buildup inside masks to people who were wearing their cloth masks over and over, day after day without washing.
   I was amazed people are so ignorant. Disposable masks are for one time single use then discarded. Cloth masks are also for one time use then washed after each use. Unfortunately, everyone does not have Common Sense. These people are not protecting others or themselves, so yes, they can be asymptomatic spreaders. In response to your above mention, most people cannot afford the N95 single use masks healthcare workers wear which would offer better protection.
   This virus strain is new, we are all learning. I would not denounce Dr. Fauci, CDC, WHO and all health and science experts because they haven’t been 100 % correct or accurate. They are learning too, we all are learning. If wearing a face mask and social distancing is doing something which is better than nothing don’t you think?
   It is not etched in stone 6 feet is the magical social distance, it is the minimum recommended distance. I personally don’t think 6 feet is enough and push for more. I also from the start, wear gloves every time I go out.
   I don’t touch anything without gloves on.
   It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that limiting outside activity and unnecessary contact could also help in addition to the above mentioned. If we all did what is recommended, don’t you think something is better than nothing? At least we are doing what is believed to help, and trying to do our part to stop the spread.
   What would Tyler do?

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9. I assume the people that refuse to wear masks also refuse to wash their hands, even after a bm…….

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   1. Do you also assume WHO staff don’t wash their hands?

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