City-County Council to vote on no-turn-on-red proposal despite state law

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15 thoughts on “City-County Council to vote on no-turn-on-red proposal despite state law

  1. Hopefully the city will review where the needed rule actually exists in downtown and not just do wholesale. Secondly, great our council acted. Why do legislators, who are only here part of the year, need to even get involved in deciding what is best for Indianapolis. They cannot even consider what is best for the citizens of Indiana, so stay out of local rules!

  2. My question/concern is that the police do not enforce the no turn on red signs that already exist downtown. Nor do they enforce the speed limit so what’s the point of putting up more signs? At times, downtown literally looks and sounds like the Indy 500, with cars flying by at dangerous speeds. Put up more signs up if you think it will help but, just like all the other laws on the books, how about we start actually enforcing them!

    1. I’m downtown every weekday. I see the wholesale disregard of traffic signals by distracted drivers. I’d say a majority of the drivers downtown are on their
      Cancel reply phones or not paying close attention.

      And: IF the IMPD is not enforcing laws, that’s a separate problem. It’s not sufficient reason to ignore the opportunity to pass an Ordinance to better-protect walkers.

      We can urge the Mayor to tell IMPD to better-enforce traffic. Simultaneously we can pass and enforce strong Ordinances dealing with traffic. The IMPD situation should not veto this chance to do the right thing.

    2. It is possible (if not likely) that IMPD ignores enforcement of traffic laws because, if it wrote tickets, cops would be in court testifying rather than on the streets solving actual crimes. It is a shame that state legislators also prohibit the use of cameras to catch and ticket speeders and red light runners. With photographic evidences, there’s no need for cops to be in a courtroom. And for those who argue that cameras violate a constitutional right to privacy, the SCOTUS has consistently rules that there is no reasonable expectations to privacy in public spaces.

  3. No Turn on Red won’t do anything but cause more congestion and road rage. And most folks around here ignore the signs anyways. All the near-misses I have experienced and witnessed stemmed from drivers making legal (but distracted?) turns at green lights but failing to yield to pedestrians. Maybe more “Yield to Pedestrians” signage and hope drivers will pay more attention?

  4. Aaron Freeman needs to remember his elected role is to benefit the citizens of Indy – not just be a pain in their ass because he’s one of the few elected Republicans in Marion County. Better yet – replace him with someone who actually will work for our city.

  5. This is classic virtue-signaling behavior. A city government that can’t be bothered to put proper crosswalk markings down onto the pavement – fresh white rectangles that drivers and pedestrians can see from a distance – nonetheless takes “action” to snarl traffic further. Meanwhile, the Cultural Trail crosswalks, with their garish curlicues and names of rich donors, are left to fade out and endanger pedestrians – but you wouldn’t want to replace them with sensible normal crosswalk markings, just to ensure the safety of pedestrians. No, that would arouse the ire of rich donors. Aaron Freeman is spot-on in working to stop this stupid initiative.

    1. The city is trying to prevent pedestrian and cyclist deaths any way they can. That is a good “virtue to signal” in my book. It would be great to get better crosswalks as well. Great point! Doing neither is immoral though. And putting car speed above all else is immoral for a dense city as well.

    2. Haha you didn’t know that where the sidewalk ends at intersections are crosswalks? You need to replace markings? Maybe if you didn’t rely on those markings so much looking off in a distance to know you can look down at your phone…you’d be looking for people and bikers and cars and signs and lights….not for markings. You’re downtown. Be aware. Kids may even pop out behind a car.

  6. I am in favor of right and left turn on red. It eases congestion, saves fuel and time. Related comment: I believe the 25 mph limit is a good thing. I ask all drivers to do the speed limits. It is one of the safest things a driver can do. I love Indianapolis, my hometown for 68 years.

    1. Your idea creates an environment that is hostile to every other form of transportation. People like to walk and cycle here as well. The car-only mentality you have and share with many others holds the city back from so many good things.

  7. Aaron Freeman is anti-safety and anti-Indianapolis. He would do better to focus on improving the suburbs he loves and lives in and leave governing the city of Indianapolis to the people that actually live here. He’s a negative force for the city and is hurting the economy and safety of its citizens.

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