Judge hears bid to block Indiana’s ban on gender-transition care for minors

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7 thoughts on “Judge hears bid to block Indiana’s ban on gender-transition care for minors

  1. More and more countries are backing away from so-called gender affirming care because there is no evidence it is beneficial, yet political zealots in the US are full steam ahead on inflicting lifelong physical problems on kids to address a mental issue. It’s barbaric and like lobotomies will be viewed in the future as one of the most unethical medical interventions in our history, but organizations like the ACLU and other advocates will never be held responsible for the damage they are causing.

    1. How is it not like a lobotomy, Rick? Virtually everything being included in the ban is either somewhat or completely irreversible.
      Even Mayo Clinic, largely pro-gender affirming care (to the point of censuring Dr. Michael Joyner for daring to assert the affects of testosterone on female athletes). Remember way back in 2016, when doping was cheating?

      Just a reminder of who you’re talking to. We’re very stupid and can’t handle big words. Because of our stupidity, we don’t trust the wise experts at the AMA, who are beyond reproach and can absolutely never get compromised by either money or fear of reputation destruction. Their “medical experience and credentials” are what we should use to give them divine authority. I mean, it worked so well for the NIH, CDC, and FDA with those essential vaccines that totally stopped people from getting COVID.

      So…talk simple to us chuckleheads and explain why a hormone replacement therapy and amputation are good for children who aren’t old enough to drink, vote, or, in many cases, drive or file taxes. I don’t have an MD so I should know my place and shut up.

    2. How is it not like a lobotomy, Rick? Virtually everything being included in the ban is either somewhat or completely irreversible.
      Even Mayo Clinic, largely pro-gender affirming care (to the point of censuring Dr. Michael Joyner for daring to assert the affects of testosterone on female athletes) recognizes that puberty blockers may cause infertility. Regarding hormone replacement, hasn’t it largely been abandoned except for “gender affirming care” because of the elevated risk of cancer? And remember way back in 2016, when doping was cheating?

      Just a reminder of who you’re talking to. We’re very stupid and can’t handle big words. Because of our stupidity, we don’t trust the wise experts at the AMA, who are beyond reproach and can absolutely never get compromised by either money or fear of reputation destruction. Their “medical experience and credentials” are what we should use to give them divine authority. I mean, it worked so well for the NIH, CDC, and FDA with those essential vaccines that totally stopped people from getting COVID.

      So…talk simple to us chuckleheads and explain why a hormone replacement therapy and amputation are good for children who aren’t old enough to drink, vote, or, in many cases, drive or file taxes. I don’t have an MD so I should know my place and shut up.

    3. Well, first of all, Lauren, I’m smart enough not to post twice.

      Secondly, “amputation” isn’t the correct medical term.

      Thirdly–are you aware there are transgender folks who are female-to-male? And non-binary folks? I know it’s less of a hyperbole sweet spot for you, but both those situations exist.

      And lastly: again, until you can match the medical expertise of those I linked, maybe you should———-> park it.

    4. Hi Rick! I posted twice because the first time it didn’t capture a sentence that I had completed, and there’s no edit tool. If that makes me “not smart”, then I think that’s a cross I’m willing to bear.

      “Thirdly–are you aware there are transgender folks who are female-to-male?” Why yes, Rick, they are now the overwhelming majority. Adolescent girls are particularly susceptible to mass formation and groupthink. When I was young, we were barely talking about anorexia but Karen Carpenter certainly helped bring attention to what was then an unfamiliar disease. But the issue grew more pronounced rather than less–I can certainly see indicators now that I might have been a “risk group”, and that same demographic are the ones who suffer ROGD (Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria) today. Let’s affirm them! Great idea. And prescribe diet pills for all the teenaged anorexia sufferers.

      What is a mastectomy other than an amputation? Aside from it not “being the correct medical term”, that’s a distinction without a difference.

      As for “nonbinary”, well, there are people who think they are faeries and druids. My nephew was convinced for 3 whole months (a staggeringly long time for a 6-year-old) that he was a raccoon. That doesn’t make it such thing. But if you want to appease the mentally ill, or those who are desperate for attention (or both), that’s on you. Don’t push your pathologies on me.

      Nonbinary is a marvelous “do not hire” signal. Nothing more.

  2. They aren’t old enough to buy cigarettes, a gun or liquor; not old enough to vote, sign up for the military or live independently. What on earth qualifies them to make a decision like changing their gender??!! Experts will tell you a brain isn’t completely mature until a person’s mid to late 20’s. Let them mature and figure themselves out. Then if they want to change their gender at a minimum age of 25ish totally their choice.

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