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87 remains found after very superficial ‘excavation work’ is a bad sign, lol.
I could be completely wrong but I seem to remember a news story during the Black Lives Matter protests that there was a confederate memorial at Mount Jackson Cemetery. If my memory is correct it doesn’t seem to be a very sensitive choice for relocation. My guess is that it was chose because of it being a “closed” cemetery and owned by Wayne Township it would be much cheaper to use than say Floral Park or Crown Hill.
You’re thinking of Greenlawn Cemetery, where the POW monument was originally located. It was moved to Garfield Park in 1929 after efforts by the KKK to move it to a more prominent location, and the mass graves themselves were moved to Crown Hill in 1931.
AR is correct, and I believe that since then the monument at Garfield Park has been disassembled. The city looked for a buyer but not one stepped up to purchase it.
You could be right but I was thinking smaller. Like flag pole and bronze plaque. I’m doing some research over there tomorrow I’ll check it out. I’ve been known to be wrong a couple of times (a day).
So the City will spend $100 million to re-bury bones and build a soccer stadium?
Not a soccer stadium. Not there. No.
What a mess. First and foremost Ersal took the initiative, risk and expense of bringing professional soccer to Indianapolis and it has always been known of his desire to bring MLS to Indy. He then spends millions getting the Indy 11 here, then on a site proposing to build a stadium that would accommodate an MLS team, much larger than what is needed for the current Indy 11.
Not only that, he was proposing to build a significant project not only for the benefit of soccer fans (fyi I’m not a soccer fan per se) but for the betterment of the southwest side of downtown which is much needed in my opinion. Certainly the City/Mayor knew of these plans before they backed doored him. It’s people like Ersal and Brad Chambers (Cityway) that have vision and wherewithal do put together such projects. If I’m a developer to that extent why would I ever put faith in Indianapolis, so long as this administration is in place, to trust the City isn’t going to do an end run on you even after all of the commitment someone such as Ersal has displayed.
Certainly there are major hurdles such as the cemetery issues to overcome/navigate but there always are in such projects. Think of what Mayor Bill Hudnut, Fred Tucker, and many others had to overcome to change the downtown landscape from “Indyanoplace” to one of the most sought after locations in the nation for sporting and convention events. Please, quit playing politics with this and make a commitment to Ersal to help work through this. If at some point MLS makes a full commitment to come to Indy and Ersal can’t put together the financial commitment needed then an agreement should be in place to utilize his stadium but at least give the guy a chance. He not only earned it but deserves it from the commitments he’s already made!
A little long, but well stated Rob!
…but he isn’t taking the risk. Ersal wants the City to be on the hook financially if his stadium fails. Taking a risk isn’t a guarantee for success, and it certainly isn’t the responsibility of local government to validate consumer choice and subsidize risk.
Rob W., your first sentence is the answer to your question: “First and foremost Ersal took the … risk..”
I’m not a lawyer and don’t pretend to be one, but I do recall a doctrine from a law class called promissory estoppel where one party takes action and incurs costs (Ersal) based upon reliance on the assurances of another (Hogsett) and then suffers damages based upon the latter reneging on those assurances. I’m sure that the City is somehow immune from this doctrine, but it is interesting to think about in my little brain.
Surely the contract is hundreds of pages long and has plenty of escape clauses.
Comparing the Eleven Park development with the Hogsett plan is like comparing night and day. The former has actual approved plans, known backers, is transparent, and has revealed specifics regarding the discovery and handling of human remains at its site. The latter has no approved plans, has unidentified backers, is opaque, and offers nothing more the assertions and generalities about the human remains at the Eleven Park site. While I supported Hogsett’s re-election, his scheme to land an MLS team doesn’t pass my smell test.
The first question I believe we should ask is whether the city can support an MLS team.