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$85 million per mile? Wow.
In contrast, upgrading IN37 to I-69 Section 6 will cost $1.5billion for 26 miles, or a little under $58 million per mile…and that includes a mile or so of new terrain north of Southport Rd. that requires buying out a lot of commercial/industrial real estate and significant widening of I-465 for a mile or more on each side of the junction.
I am a little disappointed there was no mention of the hurried process in getting this project done to help Gov Pence.
Probably because it’s just in your head. Please elaborate on your conspiracy theory…
Hurried process? This has been on the planning boards since 1999 or before.
In these government run projects, low bid wins. Too often, you get, or do not get; what you pay for. Disappointed in our leaders for not doing a better job of vetting contractors for a project of this magnitude.
Contractors reflect the market. Budgets normally prepared by consultants with no motivation to get it right.
If this wasn’t such a series of expensive mistakes, it would be pathetic at best. Memo to Hamilton County leaders: Please don’t make the rest of Hamilton County pay for the inexperience/incompetence of Fishers and their processes which obviously need some serious self-examination. By the way, in this entire story, I didn’t see much jawboning about anything at all that would possibly be done from here on out to ACTUALLY CUT COSTS. Fancy finishes? Etc. One more thing, not everything costs more today than what it did a year ago. Fuel/gas to name just one. Go get some money back!!
Is anyone really surprised? Fishers Mayor Scotty Mcfadness has used TIF’s to keep the lights on in the big Fish. Mayor Scotty Mcfadness is a liar that has lied his entire political career about understanding how finance works! Mayor Scotty has used school money in the form of TIF’s to keep the lights on and to convince developers to build in Fishers when no one had any interest in building in Fishers! Mayor Scotty Mcfadness Should stick to what he knows being a bully, a liar, a racist and a bad father! Like Aunna Fibness tells me and Lincoln Henry Fibness blame Scotty for no Chik-fil A in Fishers! Keep bringing the pizza Scotty!
That comment was said in poor taste, no? No need to make this personal.
Scott Fadness resign! Save the train!!
Hey, we found Logan Day’s new account!
Asking a NY firm to design an Indiana highway drainage system is like asking Hoosiers to to build a subway system in the Big Apple.
Right????!!
Seriously! Why aren’t they using either a local or state firm?
They have a pretty large local office here
@Martin W. – a local office here doesn’t matter. The headquarters is in New York. It is NOT an Indiana company.
Amateurs …… it’s not their money so no problem. They’ll just confiscate more of your’s. State & Hamilton County has no room to talk our roads are horrible.
If your projects is this far over budget, you finish up the work you have underway and cancel the rest. Don’t put the tax payers on the hook for additional that can’t be paid for. As someone said, $85 million per mile? Not worth the cost at this point. Finish up 126th interchange and reconsider the value of the remaining intersections.
This comment is spot on. As these interchanges get bid out one at a time, the City has to have the money in the State account for the upcoming next project. If they’ve spent it all already, they can’t meet that requirement without being bailed out by the County. SO: Contact your County Council/Commisdioners to NOT BAIL THEM OUT!!
I have noticed my property taxes keep going up yearly with a pretty big jump for the next round. They’ve really spiked in the past five years so stories like this cause me pause because at some point I won’t want to pay that much to live here. We simply say yes to anything and everything the county and city want to do including always passing school referendums for more money. I realize Hamilton County is growing and I can move if I don’t like it, right. Well I don’t want to move and I realize taxes go up, but we have to start saying no. We’re paying for these huge overruns that most of us are too busy to pay attention to and yes we need to finish this project. Maybe consider things like this come election time before easily passing the incumbents through for another term. We need some fiscal responsibility, not an open checkbook.
How in the world is this project so far over budget? And how can we not hold the contractors to their bids? As far as I’ve seen in the business world, if you bid a job and the scope remains the same, you only get paid the amount you bid. If you go over budget, it’s your loss. It feels like these contractors are taking Fishers and Hamilton County for a ride – and the taxpayers are the ones who will pay.
Of course, Fishers residents shouldn’t expect anything different. Our mayor told us the entire Nickle Plate Trail would cost $9 million, and now we’re being told that the first mile and the tunnel under 116th will cost almost that much on its own. The buck stops at Fadness’ desk, and Fishers residents need to hold him accountable.
To clarify – wasn’t the original $9 million number for the Nickel Plate Trail was for both Fishers and Noblesville – not just Fishers. (Granted, this clarification makes things worse, not better).
You’re correct, Brad. My mistake. And yes, this clarification makes it much worse. #smh