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Hogsett is an idiot.
Wouldn’t it seem a better idea for Hogsett to clean up downtown, figure out a plan to remove the homeless and drug addicts from the streets, hire more teams to mow and pick up trash across the city, and fix the streets?
We have a NFL and NBA team, a fantastic minor league baseball team and hockey team and are the headquarters for the NCAA. Doesn’t seem we’re missing out on sports enough to toss Indy Eleven Eleven to the curb?
There are much bigger priorities, like our infrastructure, that need focus. This is silly.
Oh, and an amazing WNBA team. We should support Indy Eleven and stop this nonsense.
not related to the soccer stadium but seriously what happened to regular mowing and litter removal? This city used to be so clean, it is disgusting now. Go take a quick drive down Madison Ave or any street around downtown, trash everywhere and the weeds and grass are very high and cracking through the sidewalk.
That’s why the new taxing district enabled by the State was established.
Hey Corey P.! On which of the “any streets around downtown” are you seeing all this trash? Are you a resident of downtown? Perhaps, someone who commutes into the area solely for work? Or, maybe someone who just occasionally comes into DT for to enjoy one of the many great restaurants, sporting or cultural events? As a resident of downtown, someone who sees it literally EVERY day, I’m always curious when people express such negative observations what their actual connection to the city is. Also, have you ever traveled to, oh, ANY other major city and NOT seen the things you speak of? Do you think that these issues are unique to Indianapolis?
It’s also odd that they chose Madison Ave as their example when Madison Ave is not Downtown.
I live just outside downtown, I’m downtown and around downtown almost every day. I’m not talking negatively about downtown or saying it’s unsafe because I think that’s suburban nonsense. I’m specifically talking about the decline in cleanliness over the last decade. Madison leads directly in and out of downtown and the grass and weeds are out of control. There are mattresses, tires and all other sorts of trash as well. I do not think these issues are unique to Indianapolis but that doesn’t mean it should be normalized. Thanks for your kind and snark filled comment.
Many who comment on this site think that perpetually criticizing and insulting the city makes them a good citizen rather than promoting and speaking positively about it – To the point where you actually wonder why they live here.
Some will say it is constructive criticism but for most it is just negativity and anger. For those, my guess is that attitude permeates much of their life.
So you insinuate these issues don’t exist, and then state they aren’t unique to Indy. Which is it? Why does his observation impact you so much?
“decline in cleanliness” is really a worthless anecdotal display of concern. are you on the record saying downtown was cleaner in 2013? according to what data? your own eyes? and what exactly is the mayor and city-county council supposed to do about tires and mattresses that you aren’t doing yourself?
So much ego is involved here, the likely endgame is nothing gets done.
Keystone group had no path to moving Indy Eleven to MLS. In the end that team is playing in a league that will not have a long term future. They rushed in to get support from an outside investor once it was clear the city had no faith in their long term plan. They were several pegs down the ladder for an expansion team and we are only a candidate now because MLS can squeeze them out of Indy.
In the long term, it has to be stated that MLS is only going to grow in popularity and relevance. If Indy can get this done and become one of the 32 cities with a team, it needs to do what it can to make it happen.
Agreed. But why not put the MLS team on a river front property that’s already slated to be a soccer stadium?
Not familiar with the proposal. Just curious and would like to see the river front activated.
Because the riverfront site is a cemetery that was built over with industrial uses more than a century ago, long before the current requirements to honor burial sites. Now that the buildings are gone, the bare dirt is again a cemetery, and state law requires that it be treated essentially as an archaeological dig.
There won’t be a stadium on the site in the next 5-10 years under any circumstances, unless current laws are changed.
The cemetery is a non-issue. They will pull those bodies up and move them to Crown Hill in 3 months. They move cemeteries all the time. Recently FedEx moved a larger cemetery to Concordia on the Southside. I don’t know why everyone thinks this cemetery is such an issue.
People seem to ignore the fact that Keystone wanted more City dollars than the City was willing to commit for a minor league team. So Hogsett sought an alternative that provides the potential for a MLS team.
Tim: anyone who says the cemetery is a non-issue….is insensitive, ignorant, or both. Legal or ethical concerns will likely delay meaningful construction on that site for years.
The location of a potential soccer stadium is only part of the issue here. It was clear months ago that the 11 group couldn’t meet the 20% ($240-260 million) net worth threshold. And lest anyone be misled by the slight-of-hand tactics of the last two weeks:
You can line up multiple wealthy new investors and trot them into public view. Until and unless any of them commit with funds, their net worth is….meaningless.
All of the negative points about Greenlawn Cemetery are somewhat laughable. If it were ‘undevelopable’ ’ then why did the city give the go ahead before Keystone spent $26 million dollars to clear it? Secondly, after a PORTION of the leveled property was a cemetery it was a 20,000 seat baseball park. Soon afterward it was a traction terminal (interurban depot) then Diamond Chain. Those controversial gravesites were massively disturbed 125 years ago, multiple times before Keystone got in the game.
Finally, the current site being discussed has more ‘questions’ than the southwest site,..including too small. One of the sad ironies about ‘development’ in Indianapolis’ history is the philosophy.
Great architectural buildings have been unceremoniously victims of the wrecking ball to make room for ‘new development’ instead of building adjacent. The flatiron K of P building at Penn and Mass in 1967 is a good example. 15% of downtown was destroyed to build Circle Center Mall which will be REDESTROYED for a bunch of 5 story buildings. The Diamond Chain site made sense. This latest location of a ‘tear down’ does not. It is clear that people calling the shots on development never took a class in urban development. Insanity!