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I THOUGHT IT WAS 40 STORIES.
Yes I thought the same thing so we’re the other three floors go?
Yes, 40 stories. And almost 480 feet high. So more like a 48 story building.
The Regional Center Hearing Examiner approved a 468 tall tower back in August. The lower floors would definitely have ceilings higher than 10 feet because they would contain the lobby, meeting rooms, etc.
Also, hotels generally need more mechanical space between floors, and they often have equipment and utilities up and some open space in their top crown, especially in a tower that has a peaked roof like this one.
I think the tower was always proposed as 38 floors in city announcements, and it was only “rounded up” to 40 floors in PR announcements by Hilton, etc. 38 floors in 468 feet with a peaked roof tower sounds about right since the 376-foot flat roofed JW Marriott has 34 floors.
But, I have no idea about where this new 37 floor figure came from, and I have only seen that number in this article. I doubt the hotel was lowered by just one floor—it may be that one floor is a service/mechanical floor, and only 37 floors are dedicated to guest rooms & hotel amenities.
with a little noticed change order involving some kind of amphitheatre that seats 20,000 with a football field-sized performance area…and no roof.
Dig this story. Neat to learn construction details. Thanx.
Where does the 37 story figure in the article come from? We’ve always heard 40 stories
C’mon Hilton (and Hogsett). Make it forty stories! Enough of the nip and tuck approach to architecture in this City…
What happened to the 40 stories and 480 feet tall that we were told it
would be.
For those wondering about the height, I got further clarity today from Andy Mallon, executive director of the CIB. He said that while the tower was at one time planned at 40 stories, the agency was able to work with designers to fit all 800 rooms into a tower two stories shorter in height.
As far as the 37 versus 38 conundrum, he said the discrepancy comes from the top floor being a sky lounge that is two floors tall: a main level and a mezzanine. Some consider that 37 stories, while others consider it 38.
I have inquired with the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat to understand how the floors should be counted with that information in mind and am awaiting a response. The final decision our newsroom makes on this will be reflected in our reporting moving forward.
I apologize for any confusion this may have caused.
Do we know a total height for the final design?
Is the 468ft from last falls regional center hearing examiner still accurate or was that before the 2 floor downsizing?
I’m finishing “The Hudnut Years” and just read the late, great Bill Strying’s criticism at the end of the book: Bill (Styring), you were right and Bill (Hudnut) was wrong, as this 100% city-owned hotel proves. And yet the Babbitt’s commenting here scream build it higher!
Bill Styring was opposed to the direct or indirect public subsidy of private development, as he believed it corrupted the proper role of government. So, I am not sure this city-owned hotel “proves” him right, so much as it is simply one example of the type of publicly financed project that he would oppose.