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Interesting – five days after the mayoral Election Day.
Amateur hour. Heads would roll at a private company if you lost out on another 40 days of revenue.
I would hope that the contract provided for late fees to be paid to IndyGo for not meeting the deadline. That’s a lot of additional, un-budgeted costs for the taxpayers to absorb for an additional 1+ month.
300 or more software firms in Indiana and none of them had the talent to do this???? Seriously???
300 software firms smart enough to decline a government contract
HAHAHAHA – Marion county tax payers get to foot the bill. Can’t wait to see what happens when all those bus lanes become pot holes in 1 year.
The IndyStar article mentioned IndyGo is pursuing lost revenue from Flowbird.
Many of the other routes have been unusually late. They really need to work on quality control.
I see that the keyboard warriors are out in force today. Apparently everything in their life goes perfectly at all times.
Jeffrey D C. – don’t forget the buses didn’t meet spec on charge life so they had to install supplemental charging stations. That means you either sacrifice part of your fleet each day or need to buy a few more $1.5 million buses.
If I recall correctly, the supplemental charging stations will be placed past the end of the lines to coincide with regularly scheduled breaks for the bus drivers. So there won’t be any loss in fleet size or service. I do however agree that BYD was way overpromising and Indy could have put more leverage on them to either significantly reduce the bus prices. At least we are getting the charging stations paid for though.
Astonishing, these people whining about “the taxpayer” as if the people who use the buses aren’t also contributing to the economy and tax base.
They are, but to date, they are NOT contributing to THEIR using the service that they, and the rest of us, are paying for. So far, ZERO return.
They had 2 years to get the ticketing process up and running and now it will be free for another month. Sounds like they started working on it once the red line was open. Unacceptable.
Grover N., and don’t you forget that the contract with the bus manufacturer calls for it to install and pay for any additional charging infrastructure to meet the minimum mileage requirements. In other words, the taxpayers will not incur any additional cost.
And who is paying for the additional usage of electricity to charge them more often? What about maintenance and eventual overhaul/ replacement? And it also assumes Charlie P is correct that it won’t affect service or number of buses needed?
The Flowbird website…looks like an established global company.
https://www.flowbird.group/
IndyGo is one of the most poorly run entities in the City.
And this is surprising??? Evidently, a lot of the signage with directions for the other vehicles, is running late also.
A lot of the problems in Indy can be summed in the comments to this article. It is a their services, their bus mentality, as if we aren’t all living in a community that depends on some things just being there to support the common good.
The kicker is “my tax payer dollars”. We all pay taxes on things we don’t use on a daily basis, and may never use. I’ll never utilize the public school system here, but if they need some raised so local kids can get a better education, then I’ll ante up so my neighbors can create a better life for themselves. If you don’t use like the bus, ok, don’t use it. However, some people rely on that for their livelihood and mobility. And, some of us just don’t care to drive.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been disappointed by some aspects of the Red Line roll-out, and have been frustrated with IndyGo in the past. When that happens, I voice my concerns and desire for improvements. I don’t just say “welp, shut it down! It was a failure!”. With the influx of funding, they are better able to roll-out improvements like rapid transit and more frequent local service. For those who don’t know, the Red Line is unlike anything in the country right now. There will be issues to work out! It is expected.
I work in software, so I know how starting something off and iterating to make it better goes. If you wait until it is flawless, it will never happen. This is pretty much true for anything in life. Heck, even cars, which have a pretty good record overall get recalls.
At the end of the day, any Indy resident should be rooting for the success of the IndyGo improvements, because the alternative is pretty bleak. And, frankly, a pretty dismal way to view your city. We’ve got our issues as a city, but we also have some damn good things going for us, and improved transit is one of those.
No, the problem with this “investment” is that it is a “Keeping up with the Joneses” sinkhole, provided under the guise of benefiting the underprivileged – when in fact all it is truly meant to be is a direct line linking downtown to Broad Ripple for some ill-thought out tourism talking point. Tell me, exactly, who are these underprivileged people that are receiving service that they didnt have access to downtown prior? We can sit here and talk about reduced wait times, but the reality is the wait times were not terrible before, and in reality will only be negligibly improved because IndyGo has never been able to demonstrate an on-time scheduling ability. At the end of the day, it just a bus that goes north and south, on a route that was already adequate. If they really wanted to improve the system, they would have used the Red Line money, and all future money from the approved tax, to add more buses to serve underserved and new routes.
Good for you Zach C!!!
I would love for the Red Line to be successful, both for the people who rely on transit as the primary transportation and for the rest of us as well. Unfortunately, IndyGo appears completely inept at providing a quality service. It shouldn’t be that hard to keep buses from spaces out, so you don’t have one following right behind the other in one direction, and then a 20-30 minute or greater gap between buses. If a driver can see a bus in front of them going the same direction, maybe just wait a few minutes or more to space themselves out. They don’t even have a defined schedule to keep that I’ve seen anywhere, just a ten-minute spacing. So, why do we continually see one bus a minute or less behind another? Someone please explain to me what’s so complicated about this, and/or why it’s acceptable to perform so poorly. I’m open to a good explanation.