Revamped bill would severely limit government’s ability to restrict business, church operations

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18 thoughts on “Revamped bill would severely limit government’s ability to restrict business, church operations

  1. “We really aren’t sure if masks work”.

    As Upton Sinclair said, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

    1. If you really think a face diaper that you can blithely take off when you’re seated at a restaurant–within six feet of friends outside your bubble, while eating–has some measurable benefit, you’re the one getting suckered. But I know you’re far too proud ever to admit it. And you support authoritarianism, so there’s that.

      The medical face masks we can purchase at the store even say, “Does not prevent the transmission of COVID-19”. Sure, they have to say this as a liability waiver, but they wouldn’t say it if it weren’t at least partially or mostly true.

      I cannot imagine how utterly infuriating it most be to the little Napoleons that we will continue to question their ridiculous narratives. Exactly zero grannies are being saved by driving huge portions of the population into poverty.

      “It is far easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ~Mark Twain

    2. Yes, going to a restaurant is a terrible idea. Taking your mask off in one is an even worse idea. Support a local business and get carry out, and tell the government to get off their arses and support them with government aid like they are doing everywhere else in the world.

      They have to say the masks don’t protect against COVID because there is no time to run the study required to say that . You can’t just slap a label like that on a package without rigorous study … which takes more time than we have.

      You’re projecting on the authoritarian nonsense, but then again most Trump supporters are blithely unaware of their hypocrisy.

      Did you have a point here? I dunk on Bob all day long here and you’re not much harder.

    3. No, Joe, you made the point quite well for me already. Thanks. You’re a textbook case study in motivated reasoning. The Dunning-Kruger effect captured in human form.

    4. I mean, I could listen to people who’ve studied infectious diseases their whole life … or people who think so much of their own thoughts they won’t even use their first name and initial.
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      Get better news sources. Epoch Times ain’t one.

  2. Properly worn masks are effective; improperly worn masks are not effective. Face coverings (not the same as masks) whether worn properly or improperly are not highly effective. The science is clear on these facts.

  3. Someone who says ““In reality, we really aren’t sure if masks work,” shouldn’t be involved in any sort of rule making relating to public health.

  4. “I need some better factual evidence,” Nicholls said.

    It’s called science… Sorry you lost $5M in revenue. Hasn’t stopped renovations, so you seem to be OK. Small businesses have lost far more than revenue, ie employees, life savings, decades of hard work. People have lost their lives.

    Where are the ethics committees with this bill? Obviously it is being presented for personal gain.

    1. The Ritz Charles is hardly a multi-national conglomerate. They can’t exactly migrate their catering function to Zoom sessions on laptops the way the pampered, finger-wagging consultant class can.

      I guess the “drastically reduced staff” is just collateral damage, right? Those dozens of people who lost their jobs should just suck it up for the greater good? What’s YOUR sacrifice, David?

      “Science” says absolutely nothing about a face diaper, and the correlation between social distancing and stopping the spread is weak at best, probably nonexistent. Far more potent is the correlation between lockdowns and driving formerly solvent people into severe economic hardship, which means they can’t support their vulnerable elders. This is 300% politics.

      If stringent enforcement measures were so effective, why has California and Los Angeles in particular (which has had some of the strictest enforcement in the world, let alone the country) been experiencing such an usual spike in cases over the winter? They don’t even have a harsh winter climate compared to most of the country.

      I’m sure you’ll have an answer for this. Y’all always do.

    1. Acting responsibly might also include not destroying the lives and livelihoods of the young and healthy for the sake of a disease that overwhelmingly threatens the old. Not sure what the median age of COVID death in the US is, but in the UK it’s 82, which is basically in line with the median death rate in the country before COVID. Is it sensible or responsible to upend huge swaths of society for a disease that disproportionately affects a certain age group that you can easily work to protect? Of course it isn’t, but I’m a terrible person for daring to suggest it. Let me keep being terrible.

      Judging from the homicide rates, suicide rates, vehicular accident rates, and untreated cancer deaths over the past year, all this “acting responsibly” is working wonders on keeping basic social cohesion firm and intact…wouldn’t you say?

    2. Destroying the economy is a choice. Remind us all, why did Senate Republicans do nothing for the last half of 2020? Where was their aid proposal to help the American economy? Why did America refuse to do anything for its citizens unlike the rest of the world? It’s because of nonsense like this, that if you just pretend there is no virus, everything will be fine. That the issue is the restrictions, not the virus. That’s nonsense.

      It’s real simple – A lot of people will not participate in the economy until the virus is under control. Hence people will not have jobs until the virus is under control. The virus is the problem, not the restrictions.

      Meanwhile there are some long haulers I’d love for you to have answers for. Perfectly healthy people before the virus who now have long lasting health issues. I’m sure you have an answer for them, like “suck it up, buttercup”, or maybe “Thoughts and prayers”.

    3. Yes, Joe, and there are long-haulers who get gangrene from an untreated splinter and are forced to amputate. We don’t go around wearing gardening gloves everywhere we go to protect from splinters.

      Why are you rigid collectivists so eager to make everyone so weak, enfeebled, and risk averse?

    4. In part, I’d rather not pay for their health care and disability claims the rest of their life, for one, when they can’t work the rest of their lives. And for those who don’t make it, their social security survivor benefits.
      .
      Guess I’m one of those crazy pro-lifers for whom my regard for human life doesn’t end when a baby exits the birth canal.
      .
      It’s very simple. Write people a check, they stay inside, they stay healthy. We all get vaccinated, we go back to work, life is back to normal. Except a lot of us will think less of the anti-maskers like Bob Morris and Curt Nisly and John Jacob. They’re stuck being judged for their lunacy for the rest of their lives.

  5. If the Indiana AIDs outbreak back 2015 happened today, how would this legislation impact the state and local response? Let’s ponder other scenarios where we are tying an appropriate public health response in the name of “freedom”.

    1. Why haven’t you moved to Illinois, Michael? Numbskull evil, hillbilly Republicans haven’t been in charge there for decades, and look how much better off they are than we Hoosiers. NOT

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