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The vote failed because the majority of senators voted against it. It had nothing to do with the 60 vote requirement in order to avoid a filibuster. Dems lacked even a majority to make the case that the filibuster rule should be removed to codify abortion rights at the federal level.
The GOP is treating women like 2nd class citizens. McConnell’s only interest is obstructing anything Biden supports. Our 2 traitor Senators follow right along and nothing gets accomplished.
Lol….Dems complaining about obstruction. Lol…Pot meet kettle
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Second, abortion should go back to the states.
Third, There is a chance that a national abortion bill could pass if it
is a sensible one. The bill that the Dems presented was NOT sensible
or acceptable to the vast majority of Americans.
It was a rediculious bill probably wrote by the radical Dems.
Fourth, the Left doesn’t understand that science & technology have evolved since
Roe v Wade
What a misleading article.
I can’t believe 49 Senators voted for the Women’s Health Protection Act. This bill would have enshrined in federal law, abortion policies that are more extreme than all but a few countries. Why can’t this issue ever get some nuance? Rhetorical question, of course the pro-life and pro-choice people are raising tons of money on the abortion issue.
Question: If a father wants the mother to have an abortion and the mother decides to have the baby. Should the father be held liable for child support?
Today “women’s groups” are fighting for women to have more power. I get it, they are essentially a union trying to get more for their members. “Pro-Life” groups are in much the same way fighting for the baby. Why don’t fathers get a say? Clearly, they are impacted by the decision.
Great points.
The father gets no say.
There are matters that need to be thoroughly analyzed in this debate.
It can’t be just one side calling all the shots or being obstructionist.
Pro life groups, oddly enough, lose interest in a fetus once it exits the birth canal.
They also have made it quite clear that the life of the mother is not as valuable as the fetus. Witness the politicians already talking about no exceptions for an abortion, not even for the life of the mother. Or the efforts to ban contraception. Her job is to give birth or die trying, she has no value to society otherwise.
Joe B, as usual, you are full of baloney. Our church recently donated and repackaged 8,755 single-use diapers to give to a local charity to supply new mothers with those needed basics. Why do you always repeat this hateful, “once it exits the birth canal,” rhetoric every time this topic surfaces? Disgusting and disingenuous. Give it a rest, will you?
Bob, it costs $250,000 to raise a child and you’ve got some diapers to offer. Your earnest ignorance is adorable.
You know I’m right which is why you try so lamely to shout me down. It’s not my fault the truth hurts, which is why I propose better solutions than your ilk. The simple reality is better sex education and more birth control would lead to less unplanned pregnancies and less abortions. You foolishly think that banning abortion and not fixing the issue of unplanned pregnancies will solve anything. All it will do is lead to the same exact conditions that led to legalized abortion to begin with. Sterilized and dead women. Pro-life, indeed.
Answer me this, Bob, unless you’re hiding under your desk due to another thrashing: if the issue is just about abortion, why are your ilk already talking about banning birth control in Louisiana?
Joe B.
It costs much more than $250k to raise a child now…that is old data.
The abortion topic is a recycled piece of political division by career politicians.
When Americans wake up and realize there are nuances and put forward an accurate bill/law there will be constant “uniquely timed mostly peaceful protests.”
Given healthcare today, it is ignorant to fall for the “mom should have the right to late term abortion” because 0.0 mothers are at risk of choosing their life or the baby…it’s a straw man argument from the people who believe “men can have babies.”
And rape (less than 1% of pregnancies) and incest (less than 0.5% of pregnancies) should be address as unique as such in the law.
As a Father of 3 children (one born at 30 weeks and in the NICU for 6 weeks) there are two clear facts:
– a baby should have a right to life
– both parents should have a say in the process early in the pregnancy
So, medical professional, explain the abhorrent rates of pregnant moms dying in the state of Indiana if it’s so risk-free.
Also explain why these same pro-lifers are so gung-ho to insist that ectopic pregnancies, which have a 0.0 chance of a live birth, must continue.
And why IUD’s should also be banned.
I’d also like to see your stats on how many late term abortions there are with no health complications for either mother or child. True “choice” abortions.
I’ll wait.
Typical Joe…rather than find common ground it’s a “I’ve read everything on the internet and can cite a biased article to support my position” response.
Abortion, the right to life, and this medical decision making is nuanced. Rather than everyone first understand that it’s either, “my body my choice no guardrails, or save the baby at week one including the ectopic baby!”
Both of those extreme view points are the issue.
Please refer me to all the data of Mother’s who could have died but we terminated the baby from week 30 on? I’ll wait.
You’re fun. Tell the guy who is pushing for reducing abortion rates by reducing the demand for them that he doesn’t get nuance.
Then whine that I can’t find common ground with someone peddling nonsense that women never die carrying a baby to term, that there’s never sound medical advice for a woman to make the awful decision to abort a pregnancy she likely wanted to have to save her own life.
I had a low regard for your medical professional opinion before, and I can tell you it’s now 0.0, a number you’re quite familiar with.
Sure, you’re not an extremist. You’re in the sensible middle. Keep telling yourself that.
With all those in the media trying to find you support Joe, it’s seems you may need to do some more medical research on the “frequent situation doctors have to decide to abort a child at 40 weeks to save a mom.”
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/investigations/13-investigates/indiana-has-one-worst-rates-childbirth-related-death/531-c9366a08-be9a-41fe-b8ce-18f1d8e37492
If you can’t bother to correctly quote me in order to try to make your point, don’t bother to expect me to give you a reply.
Frequent? 40 weeks? Even Breitbart does a better job of quoting than that.