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Well it has become evident that the vaccine isn’t performing well. Scientists and Doctors keep changing the clinical prevention and clinical treatment. This is getting ridiculous….
“It has become evident” ??? Are you saying this via fiat? Ukase?
This is all a test run paid for by Libby’s to start control of people. Fouchi and his grants paid for the research with our tax money. You’ll die of a lightning strike before this virus.
On average 41 people die of being hit by lightning each year in the US. So far 630K people have died due to COVID in the US.
JL: ** You’ll die of a lightning strike before this virus. **
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I made sure of that by getting vaccinated – in spite of a medical condition. It’s funny JL, because all of your political heroes have undoubtedly been vaccinated (e.g. Donald was vaccinated back in January), and have the same protection I have.
There is NO evidence that available vaccines aren’t performing well and in fact miraculously well – the virus however will eventually do better if we don’t reach herd immunity. With these vaccines this virus should and could have been gone if political leadership hadn’t chosen it as another issue to energize their base.
Physicians DO keep changing prevention and therapeutic strategies- to not do so would be malpractice.
Even the most insane use of statistics wouldn’t support the lightening strike statement but there is something to be said for Darwinism.
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Something I read today … under the ACA, it’s legal to charge smokers more for their care. If we’re not going to prohibit them from getting healthcare, howsa about we update the ACA to charge vaccine refusers full freight for their medical care?
How about take cigarettes off the market? After all, the surgeon general warns cigarette use will cause cancer. We all know how much it costs to treat cancer patients. How about we update the ACA to let them know that healthy people who have high T-Cell immunity will request a discount for having no healthcare claims? They save millions of dollars on people who you say are “refusers”. Healthy people are not compelled to be lead by misinformation or demands of a vaccine that has not gone through formal approval. There is something wrong when the truth about this virus continues to be evaded; yet it is becoming a demand to get the vaccine. No thank you.
Go on, tell us the “truth” about the virus.
If you work in the healthcare industry and you won’t get vaccinated, it’s time to search for a new career. It’s time for vaccine requirements to do things like flying, eating out, concerts, etc. I’m sick of having to wear a mask to protect unvaccinated people at various places. Those of us who were responsible last year, wore our masks, socially distanced, and stayed home are being punished because of the selfish people who did none of these things, who now refuse to get a vaccine. Block these people from being allowed in public spaces. It’s their turn to stay home. They can come out when they do what’s best for public health. If we keep letting them spread the virus everywhere, we risk it mutating and rendering our vaccines worthless.
For once I absolutely agree with you!
“My body, my choice.” I work in healthcare, plan to enjoy being in public spaces, flying, eating out, concerts, etc. Wore masks without any peer reviewed studies to warrant the demands…for a micro level particle size engineered virus, socially distanced, stayed home when not required for surgery/work, etc. Followed all the arbitrary rules. There is no reason to force vaccines with a EUA gene therapy that has not been vetted. Further, many vaccinated continue to test positive for COVID, and the “pros” at the CDC with zero transparency in data are continuing to put a finger in the air to make decisions.
“Block these people from being allowed” to be American’s is Wes’ answer.
Healthcare – the new politics of the left.
And the power grab by politicians continues to grow each day.
You are willfully misrepresenting the capabilities of this vaccine and you know it. Working in health care doesn’t mean you know what you’re talking about.
A vaccine that this radically reduces the percentage of people who contract the virus, get hospitalized by the virus, and die from a virus … developed in one year … is pretty damn incredible.
And if you studied any amount of history, you know that eradication is only possible not by a better vaccine, but by just about everyone getting the vaccine.
But go on with your nonsense that kills people. The misinformation you’re consuming has killed far more people than the vaccine ever did.
Joe B. – “comply or else!”
Zero transparency of COVID health data by the tens of thousands who work at the CDC.
Increase reimbursement to chart a patient as “suspected COVID”.
Testing that has many false positives just to suit the bias of the testing party.
Flu vaccinations every year, no eradication.
But wait, is there influenza anymore? We don’t seem to report those tests anymore?
Again, healthcare that is politicized and not transparent has killed people.
Peer review and prospective studies drive healthcare decisions, not career politicians, the media, or progressives with an agenda.
why make ’em stay home. their choice not to be vaccinated, therefore their risk. i totally agree that the masking for the vaccinated is not appropriate.
The misinformation you are consuming and repeating is beyond politicized, doesn’t stand up to any peer review, and the forces pushing it are beyond opaque, so spare me.
Explain to me how a vaccine developed under a Republican presidential administration and implemented under a Democratic presidential administration is this political. It makes no sense.
Unless, of course, the Republican Party has become Publishers Clearinghouse for cranks who would be laughed out of the John Birch Society for their beliefs. And the party elites lost control to the loons, proving that you never accomodate crazy, you never tolerate it, you root it out.
It’s a sad world when MTG or Boebert or Gosar or Gohmert are considered more trustworthy than career scientists, but here we are. When Mitch McConnell is going around telling people to take the vaccine, that should give a clue as to the intellectual rot within his party. Too bad he’s too much of a coward to do anything about it.
There is NOT one broad brush to fix such a scandal. You really think everyone being vaccinated will fix the problem? Obviously, countless people have already had the virus so isn’t that punishment enough? When the truth is never known, then the risk is higher that the proposed demand. Go ask the lab in China why they refuse to allow research of its origin. Oh and by the way, the delta has been manufactured too.
Christine – explain the truth. I asked two days ago. Go for it.
The idea that gene therapy is a bad thing … well, in the case of several commenters here, I hate to break it to you, but at least what from what I am seeing, DNA modification might be in your best interests.
And I’ll leave aside the idea of how many “pro-life” people who insist the state should have a say in whether a woman can get Plan B … are suddenly big fans of the idea that the state should have no say in whether people can be forced to get vaccinated, even though it’s been settled law in the United States for a century.
It pains me to say it, but let the unvaccinated die. If they want to choose to not get vaccinated, let them suffer the consequences without medical assistance. Let them find oxygen cylinders and medical care on their own … we’ll see how the true free market would really work in health care. (Hint: poorly.)
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62 Percent of Americans Support Vaccine Mandate: Poll
A new poll shows that a majority of Americans support a vaccine mandate, though a sharp partisan divide in support persists.
The poll, conducted by The COVID States Project and released by PureSpectrum July 30, found that 64 percent of respondents said they support the mandate, an increase from April and May, when 62 percent said they support it.
An even greater number of respondents—70 percent—said they support requiring the vaccine to get on an airplane. Fewer respondents said students should be required to take the vaccine.
Sixty-one percent of respondents said children should be required to get the vaccine to go to school, and 66 percent said college students should be required to be vaccinated.
The poll surveyed 20,669 people from all 50 states and the District of Columbia between June 9 and July 7.
The partisan gap in support for vaccine mandates “remains vast,” the survey report said. Democrats are nearly twice as likely to support a mandate, with 84 percent saying they do, compared to 45 percent of Republicans. 57 percent of Independents said they support a mandate. Both Democrats and Republicans increased their support for a vaccine mandate by three points.
There is also a significant gap between rural and urban attitudes toward a mandate, the report said. 73 percent of respondents form urban areas said they support the mandate, while 53 percent of rural respondents do.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/62-percent-of-americans-support-vaccine-mandate-poll/ar-AAMON6q
Well, technically if we just closed the border like a few nameless countries with almost zero Delta cases did, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Closing the border? How would power hungry career politicians be able to get new voters? Can’t do that now can we…
No need for new voters when you just make up new rules so not everyone can vote…. Trumpublicans have to make it harder for Democrats to vote in 2022 to compensate for all their supporters who will be dead and unable to vote in the next election.
who knew so many trumpists worked in health care, that doesn’t seem to fit the narrative. how does this talking point work out anyway. perhaps it isn’t all that you hear in the media with the vaccine