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After RFRA, I was never going to vote for him again. And that was reinforced after working beside Trump’s nationalistic presidential campaign. Just retire.
RFRA? The Religious Freedom Restoration Act…a law that 30 other states and Congress has adopted? A law that was supported by conservatives and liberals alike (and virtually every interest group including the ACLU and every member of Congress) after Employment Division v. Smith was handed down in 1990 and made the passage of RFRAs necessary.
So many opponents of RFRA have bought into the lie that RFRA’s allow discrimination in areas of public accommodation such as serving people in restaurants or stores or other business establishments. Yet, there is not one single example of that ever happening anywhere in the United States. Whether one can discriminate in such services depends entirely on whether the state or local entity has a civil rights law that prohibits that discrimination. RFRA’s do not override those civil rights law. They never have.
Actually, if you add in the states that have adopted RFRA through judicial decision, I think the total is up to 40 states.
He was toast and Trump gave him four years. Now toast again.
Mike’s going to think he has a future and Trump will insist on one of his children as the candidate in 2024. Maybe they’ll use Mike in 2024 again as VP if they think he can deliver the evangelical vote…
The Elf on the Shelf Pence is useless. Indiana was glad to get rid of him. Look how great he did leading the COVID task force, he wouldn’t even wear a friggin mask! Please don’t send him back to Indiana, we don’t want him!
Thank you!
Who else would want him besides Indiana?
Pence hasn’t “lost” just yet. The media really should spend some time reading the laws before reporting on them.
Wake up, JCB
LOL, taking wagers on this now if still interested.
Hopefully he has no political future.
Mike Pence is a decent man with solid philosophies based on timeless Biblical truths. All you nay-sayers can spend eternity shoveling coal into the flames of hell with Biden/Harris & Company….and you’ll get a preview of that coming attraction as Team B/H and their secular-humanist cronies redirect The United States of America down the road to Venezuela in the next four years…well, Harris will after they jettison Biden, per the plan.
With those Christian credentials maybe Pence can become a megachurch pastor/televangelist.
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Or replace Rush Limbaugh on talk radio.
Sundays on The Trump Network!
Your boys Trump and Pence are false idols.
Mike Pence has done more to hurt the future of Christianity than will ever be known. The younger generation wants no part of evangelical Christianity thanks to his words/deeds….
Hahahahaha. Oh Bob P. You’ll make a great show host for Trump’s new TV station, which he will apparently be running from Rikers Island.
Under His Eye, Bob.
Fade into oblivion, Pence. Good riddance!
And Blessed be the Fruit, Bob.
Where’s your buddy Wesley tonight, Michael? Better ring him up; he wouldn’t want to miss your oh-so-clever, insightful commentary.
Further food for thought for those of you dancing on what you think are Trump and Pence’s graves and celebrating the “victory” of the evil multi-billionaire cabal of George Soros and other Trump and America haters who underwrote this election debacle (and probably the whole Wuhan Virus thing to derail Trump, although I doubt that will ever be proven either way): Two old, timeless adages come to mind: (1) What goes around, comes around…and (2) If they did it FOR you, they can do it TO you. A wise secular-humanist would do well to check his/her/its current smugness at the door.
This IS “what goes around, comes around” Bob. Soros had nothing to do with Trump losing by 5 MILLION votes this time. Also note the electoral college vote: mirror image of 2016.
We love antisemitism here. /s
Wow, just wow. The cult lives on.
Chris B: Great commentary. Good to have your positive, irrefutable knowledge that Soros & Company had nothing to do with Trump’s defeat. How did you get so smart? I allowed that such an assertion will likely never be proven either way. Don’t you ever consider that such arrogance will catch up with you some day?
Great to learn that foreign billionaires have total influence over 75 million US voters while the Koch Bros. and the other ultra-conservative American billionaires can only swing 71 million votes.
Soros the man the right wing loves to hate while their minion’s steal America blind.
“Their” minions being those of George Soros, right, Tom? Your sentence construction leaves something to be desired. (I have an idea you haven’t researched George Soros very much…as the old saying goes, “ignorance is bliss,” isn’t it?)
Bob – get better sources.
I went to law school with Mike Pence. He as a good guy, very well-liked by his classmates. A humble, down-to-Earth person. But at some point, Mike decided he’d give away his principles, his integrity and decency to go all in on Trump. Actually his shelving of his his principles came before then. He changed a great deal from his early days in Congress to the time he became Governor. And not in a good way. Public office is not worth it if you have to give away everything you believe in to achieve it.
Amen.
Really, Paul? Is Pence now for abortion on demand? Did he abandon his adherence to the idea of limited government? What, exactly, did he “give up?” You confuse policy with personality. Trump’s personality became a liability; his policies are still popular with Americans who believe in Freedom for everyone…not just freedom for godless, secular-humanist fascists to run roughshod over The United States of America and force their dead-end socialist goals down the throats of freedom-loving Americans.
What policies? You mean the “whatever he says it” platform the GOP had this year?
Look, I get it. The Republican Party is no longer the party of limited government and free markets. It’s very pro-life (as long as the person is unborn), very much about the rule of law (except the ones they don’t like), and cares deeply about the Constitution (except for the First Amendment). Most of all, it’s the party for people so angry they can’t think straight or see when they’re getting played.
Trump used Pence to get what he wanted. Pence used Trump to get what he wanted. They both used gullible voters in 2016 to get what they wanted. By 2020, there were enough voters tired of the lies and conspiracy theories and Qanonsense that the Trump-Pence con collapsed. Trump will try to find a way to monetize his new-found cult leader status, and whatever he comes up with will not include Pence. But the soon-to-be ex-vice president will convince himself that if he stays loyal to his former master, he will be rewarded with the nomination in 2024. But alas, it will not be. Because loyalty with Trump is a one-way street, all in the direction to – not from – the master. What is it about that universe the everyone seems to have lost the ability to think critically, to discern fact from fiction, and to come to a reasonable judgment about a man’s character and integrity? It simply boggles my mind.
Your mind is easily boggled, Brent. That’s too bad because you fail to understand why Trump/Pence were elected. Here’s why: Enough people were fed up with The Swamp in general, and useless, liberal Democrats like the racist, disingenuous Obama & Company running the country into the ground. Is that too hard to understand?
I disagree, Brent. If Trump had done any sort of minimum viable attempt at controlling the coronavirus, he’d have won re-election. Problem for Trump is, he’d constructed an administration of people whose primary qualification for office was affection for or relation to Donald Trump.
There’s also millions of people out there who are fed total nonsense. They don’t just disagree that the sky is blue, they want to tell you it’s full of chemtrails that Bill Gates and George Soros are making in the basement of a DC pizza shop (or something like that). Democracy in the US is broken until that gets fixed.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/inside-remaking-of-karen-pence-mike-pence-2024
Bob – you posted a link to your inbox. The Russians can likely read it but I can’t.
Pence supported a man with no morals and set out to destroy America. Pence sat by and watch a crazy mad man put the US at bottom of the scale in influence. Pence will NEVER recoup from lying with the devil. I was not a Pence fan but after watching him closely destroy the health of our country while pretending to lead the Coronavirus committee but all the while doing what he was told to do by 45 instead of what was morally right. That is not a religious man in my book. He heard the scientist and doctors and made the Choice to do what 45 told him to do all for Politics. And all the whole PRAISING 45 each and every time he spoke. He is a puppet not a leader. If all the religious groups think he is one to follow, I think those groups are nothing but devils in disguise. ANYTHING FOR POLITICS and controlling. My faith is with GOD not carnival barkers.
“I was not a Pence fan” says it all, Pamela. You can stop right there, having shown your hand.
If your faith is with GOD, how can you say Trump has NO morals when he was the first sitting President to attend the annual March for Life pro-life rally following the disastrous 1973 Supreme Court Roe vs. Wade abortion decision? And Trump has done more for pro-life causes than anyone I can remember in recent history.
Let me guess, you voted for the Biden-Harris pro-abortion-on-demand-at-taxpayer-expense ticket, right? Tell me how that comports with your faith in the Creator of Life.
Maybe now Holcomb will quit listening/bootlicking to Pence?! We would all like that, no?
Thanks for the warning on the inbox link, Joe. B.
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