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Sad and mad at the same time – just sickening…. brings tears to my eyes.
Everyone turned a blind eye for the last 9 months in Portland and other cities. NOW Your surprised????
No they didn’t. I’ve seen the protests in Portland on CNN and MSNBC. Also, you meant to use you’re.
Been nice if they keep political views out of sports and just keep everyone happy at home watching sports.
Well this is what happens when half of the country’s brains have been destroyed by a want to be dictator, right-wing media, and social media. I hope these people get a grip on reality after January 20th, but I highly doubt it. Thanks President Trump for destroying America!
Wes – your hypocrisy is showing.
Right on, JCB.
Quote: Biden condemned what he called an “unprecedented assault” on American democracy, “unlike anything we’ve seen in modern times.”
“This is not dissent. It’s disorder. It’s chaos,” he said.
If Biden would watch anything other than MSM, he would have seen worse in Portland, etc., which he wouldn’t dare call out lest he lose half his supporters! What hypocrisy indeed.
Editor: rioters and terrorists, NOT protesters. When you cross the insurrection line you lose the polite term.
Comparing any other protest in this past year is disingenuous at best. They have nothing in common other than the basis of protest. Protesting for equal rights under the law and protesting an election that couldn’t be proven to fraudulent are not the same and frankly, insulting.
If you voted for Trump you enabled a man who called for this behavior, and if you aren’t aware a woman has now died. You OWN part of that.
Sorry, Chris. If you would pay attention to the aims and goals of Black Lives Matter and Antifa, you’d know the rioting that followed Minneapolis and George Floyd had little to do with civil rights and everything to do with disrupting civil order.
Oh Bob P…….. so the old “you started it” argument? sigh………….
If I paid attention..?What are you talking about? Bob, you are conflating on here just as you do on FB. Please try harder. For a guy who supports the party of life; ya’ll seem to value property more than life’s of others.
Truly amazing how rioting and looting (not protests as you call them) are understood and expected because that’s what it takes to get equal rights. The hypocrisy of liberals is just beyond astonishing how you can justify those acts and then condemn this. How about we all strongly condemn both sides and announce all acts will be harshly dealt with so don’t do it. That way you don’t look like a hypocrite when you say some riots are good and understood while others are not. What Joe Biden and the liberal press said would have been great if he had been talking that way this past summer. People are not going to listen to each other unless reasonable people come together and treat each other as equals. Special treatment for some and looking the other way for others is not going to cut it. I hate that yesterdays protests turned into what it did. It was wrong and I condom it. We make our voices heard through our elected officials and like it or not taking to the streets is fine until you cross the line. It is this way for yesterday and all of the senseless acts we saw this past summer. You can equate them. They are the same. How is some violence different and acceptable?
Oh. So these aren’t the peaceful ones like we saw in Indianapolis and Louisville??
Those were generally peaceful until the police started tear gassing and spraying rubber bullets on people. You didn’t see that today. Today the “protesters” violence was unprovoked. Why were there only 15 arrested and only one use of tear gas today? Becsuse of White Privilege.
Wes – the white privilege card huh? Here we go with the woke garbage.
JCB. You legitimately believe that if black people stormed the Capitol they wouldn’t have been tear gassed and shot? If you do, you’re dumber than I thought.
Count me as dumb Wesley because I do not think the response would have been different. I saw lots of tear gas and one person shot so what are you talking about. I guess your saying they would have mowed them all down with a machine gun like they did this past summer? Oh wait they didn’t do anything like that this past summer so what makes you think these people were treated as special and BLM would have all been killed? White privilege, really. Money and power speak more to our problems than race.
Response would have been the same or less Wes.
The summer of BLM and AntiFa is proof.
Mike Braun, part of the gang.
As a former Trump supporter (until 2020, I am truly embarrassed.
You can be a Trump supporter without endorsing everything other supporters might do, Michael J. Otherwise, you’re a fair-weather friend. I’m also sorry it has come to this.
What exactly, Bob, does he have to do to lose your support? What line has he not yet crossed?
Apparently Bob P.s support extends to sedition and armed insurrection. But hey, there are good people on both sides, right?
I agree with Michael. Having been a supporter I am truly embarrassed and saddened by the way this is ending. Two weeks can’t come fast enough. I’m not going to be happy about the next two years, but it will still be hard to pass the most radical ideas like the green new deal for example since you need more than a simple majority so I’ll look forward to battling in two years and my hunch is that Democrats will get creamed in the mid terms unless the Trump hangover is still around.
Quote: For hours, the president made little effort to quell the violence he had instigated, sharing a video at 4:17 p.m. in which he told people to “go home” – while continuing to promote the lie that he had won the election.
Nice work, WaPo: Don’t capitalize President and use the word “lie.” Biden will be inaugurated, so you’ve done your work….investigative journalism be damned.
From the conservatives at the Washington Examiner:
Trump and his mob have dishonored America
“The mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday was engaged in nothing less than a seditious insurrection. Everyone who participated in the violence and lawlessness acted disgracefully. Officials who set the tone for the sedition, especially President Trump, acted even more disgracefully, as they are expected to know better, indeed to lead.”
“Political lies, including Trump’s lie of a rigged election, can have tragic consequences.”
“Any acts of sedition must be put down with as much force as necessary. This nation is known for its peaceful elections and transitions. Mobs must not be allowed to disrupt the workings of the republic by storming the edifices of democracy.”
“… it is a disgrace that Trump was so slow and so weak in denouncing the violence and used his statement to repeat his canard about the election being stolen. Joe Biden’s statement condemning events at the Capitol and calling for peace was, by contrast, dignified, statesmanlike, and ringingly clear.”
“He repeatedly incited rallygoers on Wednesday to “walk down Pennsylvania Avenue” to the U.S. Capitol, to “not take it any longer,” and to “never concede.” Trump knew what he was doing. He was whipping a sizable portion of the crowd of his supporters into a frenzy. He was acting like a tinpot strongman, not like the president of the United States. His behavior was inexcusable.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-and-his-mob-have-dishonored-america
Let’s be honest, neither side has a leg to stand on. Both sides have their extremists who promote their own agendas. Politicians, and in some instances ” media” are equally culpable in tearing the country apart for their own gain and not that of the nation. Both sides need to stop, to learn to talk and not tell and scream at each other, to learn to listen to and respect other opinions. Not always agree, but listen.
Remind me of the time the Democrats caused Congress to had to evacuate during a session. I’ll wait.
The Republicans, if they want to show that they value America over their party, can start to redeem themselves today. Mike Pence can work with the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove Trump immediately. Or they can lead an effort to impeach and convince him via Congress. Otherwise, they are just as guilty as Trump and the stain will be permanent.
Oh spare us the “both sides” talk. Trump’s cult is now fully delusional, and actually believe he won an election he clearly lost. The right-wing media, social media, and Trump are responsible for making half the country insane. You may not agree with liberals, but we believe in reality. Most Republicans used to be the same. Now 74% of the party’s voters actually believe Trump won. How can one respect the opinion of another who is truly delusional?
Thomas – Thanks.
Joe – Refer to Black Panthers storming the Capitol.
Wes – you may want to look into the AntiFa people who rioted yesterday under the guise of “Trumpers”. Woke Chewbacca seems to be everywhere it seems.
JCB, your mind is simply full of disinformation.
Learned something new today, JCB …
https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
Oh Bob P. I knew you’d be all over this post. You must be loving this. Always true to form. Watch our country fall apart.
Congrats to an honestly elected Joe Biden.
Congrats also to our BLM hero George Floyd, he’s been sober now for 9 months and felony free. Impressive.
And racist.
What a disgusting comment.
The most intelligent and reasoned comments I’ve read on here were from Thomas. Thank you sir and I agree with your words.
Agreed Joe F.
Reality is career politicians all need to be fired both sides. They want this division. Extremists exist on all sides, but the media only targets one side. The media fans the flames for their agenda.
Simple summary.
You can be simple when you’re wrong.
Let play this the same as the libs this past summer, it was a peaceful protest, and antifa thugs were the ones causing damage. See, time to move on.
Not sure that I want to join this debate (loose term here), but the events of yesterday require it. Comparing the protests in Portland, Minneapolis, Indianapolis or any other event that happened this summer to yesterday’s assault on the United States Capitol is plain ridiculous. But we are are getting rather numb to ridiculous aren’t we? The comparisons would be similar to maybe comparing the Triple A Indianapolis Indians to the great Yankee baseball teams of the 50’s and 60’s (I’m reaching for something that is simple and easy for some to understand). Ridiculous right? Well the events of yesterday was way more egregious and way less comparable than any scale can fathom. Purported Americans attacked, stormed, and defamed the United States Capitol. They put people in harms way and others can never justify what we saw yesterday. Dishonorable, Disappointing, Disgusting, Disheartening are the right words for this moment. Oh one more word, Embarrassing. We can do better and we will do better once we put this current administration in our rear view mirror!
These Indiana representatives – Baird, Banks, Pence and Walorski, shamefully and apparently without regret, through their vote are implicit in aiding and abetting the chaos, mayhem and death resulting from the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. These representatives know the votes they contested were fair yet through their actions implicitly approve the disenfranchisement of legally cast vote and the will of the people. Ask each representation to clearly identify their personal understanding or witness of voting irregularities that would justify their need to contest.This assault on the democracy and democratic principles was unprecedented and inexcusable. Many remain distraught about the riot and violence effected by this right wing extremist group of trump supporters. This reflects anarchy, not democracy. Trump lost and he knows it, yet he continued to encourage conspiracy theories and continued to lie and spread misinformation which has led to deaths, destruction, a terrorized Congress, injuries, and no doubt spread of Covid. This was a coup attempt and a direct threat against democratic processes standing and respected for 200 years. This insurrection further displays the dual code of justice and enforcements as the primarily white violent mob illegally acted without arrest or the outrageous police rebuke of peaceful protesters demanding no more or no less that equal rights under the law – equal rights clears do not exist for many in the United States. Trump is a disgrace and embarrassment, and his ardent followers a cult in denial that their leader lost and is an abject failure in leadership, entirely lacking the decency, decorum and demeanor of a president. He is mentally ill and needs to go.
Derek you write “primarily white violent mob illegally acted without arrest or the outrageous police rebuke of peaceful protesters demanding no more or no less that equal rights under the law – equal rights clears do not exist for many in the United States.” Maybe you could try to understand why statements like that infuriate people like me and we will never see eye to eye. I’m not even going to debate you on the specifics of what you said. Just understand I wholeheartedly disagree with your sentiments and always will. You can call it racism, but nothing could be farther from the truth. Violence is violence and calling your side “peaceful protesters” is comical. Lets just agree that we see the world in a different way.
What’s racist is that if these were BLM rioters, they’d all be dead! White people get their privilege to just storm the Capitol without being harmed. Don’t be dumb.
Wesley, I did not see the BLM protesters getting attacked by the authorities much less being killed. In fact I was shocked by the level of non action they took to stop all the burning, rioting and looting. It was very hard to watch night after night on my tv with no response from the authorities so seriously to claim they would all be dead if that had been BLM just makes my point of we see the world in two different realities and I don’t know how we come together. I just think it has to start with all of us denouncing all violence in the strongest terms and not trying to defend it for some and not for others. I’m certainly willing to start there.
I do not consider it racism. And, I recognize that racism is not illegal. My comment noted that the mob was primarily white as I know and saw there were blacks and other non-whites in the mob. It is a fact that this mob was not met with a forceful response, so typical for minority groups. I respectfully disagree with you as the specific incident I cite was in Washington DC when peaceful protestors were tear gassed and pelted with rubber bullets so that Trump could cross the street and hold a bible at a church for a photo-op. I welcome a conversation to share thoughts with others on these issues and I have discussed with friends with whom I do no agree. (Of course, I recognize this is not the forum to do so, but hope that all who disagree do try to dialogue to a friend or acquaintance who my disagree. The more serious but cordial dialogue occurs, the better for all.)
Jeff, I do appreciate the response and do not intend to infuriate but to simply call out inequities of treatment. Violence is violence and the hooliganism and destruction in downtown Indianapolis, and in any location, I neither condone or approve. The breach of the Capitol was in my view was a deliberate act of aggression and intimidation, planned and documented in social media. That the Capitol Police did not have more reinforcements to better control the mob and protect all congresspersons was shameful breakdown in security. Again, the concern is equality – equal response for equal actions; that has not be the case and there is much need for improvement.
Derek you are right in the example you cite with that being one incident of a forceful response. I suspect they were doing what they thought they had to do to protect the President. I would expect them to do no less to protect Joe B or any President. They can’t screw around when it comes to Presidential security. Too many people out there that want to be famous. Having said that you are correct in that if we can all agree that any violence by anyone is unacceptable for any reason then that is certainly a starting point for meaningful discussion and one that we should start having.
Trumpism is a mental illness and should be treated as such