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Exactly what are the “harmful and unintended consequences” that Gov. Holcomb fears from mass vaccinations against Covid? Here in Indiana the death count continues to climb as only about half of the state’s population has been vaccinated. The rate of vaccinations has pretty much plateaued, both here and nationally. To date roughly a quarter million Americans have died from the infection, and as many or more survived but will deal for years with serious symptoms resulting from their infection. We have now seen three waves in this pandemic, and without achieving an 80-percent or higher rate of inoculations more waves will occur. The pandemic is still here, it threatens lives and our economy. Complying with a national mandate can end this nightmare.
How far we’ve fallen as a country from the era of polio…
What is lost here is that this is not still an “Emergency” thus his emergency powers don’t apply.
Also, if you are vaccinated and its so awesomely safe to be vaccinated, why do you care if someone else is or isn’t?
Why do we care. COVID kills a certain percentage of people it infects. It makes a certain percentage sick enough to be hospitalized. Sick and dying people fill up hospitals denying the rest of America access to health care. Dead people don’t contribute to the economy at all ever again. Sick people don’t contribute to the economy as long as they are sick.
People that are unvaccinated are more likely to get COVID even if they have already had COVID in an earlier wave. Unvaccinated people are more likely to be incubate the virus for longer than vaccinated people, thus spreading the disease to more people, even to some already vaccinated people. See paragraph one for the results.
I would really care if Cousin Maga visits at Christmas and infects and kids grandma and grandpa, and maybe even the rest of my family, so do see why everyone should get vaccinated?
AMEN. These “you must vax if we all will die” idiots are what’s wrong with America. They are openly inviting government control of all aspects of our livelihood.
Brent and Joe have to be trolling, because I refuse to believe there are those among us that are this obtuse.
The first two people deserve what they get I guess. They don’t get out much. I spent almost a month in the hospital due to COVID pneumonia. I did not have the “vaccine” but that was my choice. I stayed away from most people, especially large groups and avoided it. My wife chose to get “fully vaccinate” and we felt safe. She went out, being fully vaccinated, got COVID and then gave it to me. The amazing thing is that while in ICU, i still kept my ears open and what I heard amazed me. For 3 and 1/2 weeks as many people were being admitted to ICU that had been vaccinated as had not and for 3 days during that period actually more were being that were vaccinated than had not.
Vaccinating will not protect anyone or stop the spread of COVID. I was amazed but not any more than the doctors and nurses who all believed as the first two commenters were.
Instead of concentrating on treatments for COVID as we should have we have been more concerned about getting people vaccinated by something that really doesn’t even qualify as a vaccine. MRNA technology, of which these shots are made from are no vaccines in the traditional sense as unlike all previous, actual vaccines. That is why they have such short life spans as far as protection.
I actually get out a lot now that I’ve got the booster. I’m tired of being at home. But it’s not that hard to wear a mask when I go grocery shopping or sit at church … those who sit near me have to be glad that something is over my mouth to muffle my tone-deaf warbling.
Neil, you realize that if everyone was vaccinated, 100% of those hospitalized would be vaccinated, right?
The vaccine has never promised 100% protection from infection, illness, hospitalization, or death… similar to how any treatment for COVID is not going to work in 100% of cases. But you knew that, right?
Just like you knew that the science wasn’t going to lead to the call for boosters until we started having breakthrough cases and we realized that the protection from the vaccine was waning … with those who’d taken the “traditional” J&J shot being those most at risk.
I do not get this stupidity, and the cost they are putting on business. Let me understand. We can’t find workers now because the government decided to pay them so much to be off for covid. Now they want us to make sure we give them time off required to get them the vaccine as well as any side effects? What the hell were they doing all this time? If they wanted the vaccine, they would have gotten it! People who don’t want it, don’t want it. So many companies have closed due to this pandemic as it is. President Biden should not get to decide what you put in your body. And he should not make business continue to pay for this. Business now has to come up with a plan to manage this, administer this. Of course they haven’t figured out a way to monitor this –THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE! But when employees can whistle blow and OSHA comes out to pull $14k per person from you due to non-compliance, then the government can make more money???? They will be right there up your rear end! The thing threatening our economy is business, supply chain, lack of employment. Anyone who thinks complying with this national mandate will end this nightmare? When does your covid shot expire? Who is tracking that……
Wow, is there a lot of misinformation to unpack in your comment. Yes wages have risen, even in states that stopped the extra unemployment benefits early. Maybe the Pandemic did give a lot of people time to reflect on the fact that working two or three jobs at slave wages was not worth it, and found better more meaningful way to use their time (like get education, or stay home with the kids). I would hope that most employees offer sick time, but if they do not then maybe the job is not worth having, plus sick time for side effects is at most one day for most people.
Biden might not get to decide what you put into your body, but there is 100+ years of case law that says public health officials (part of the government) do have the right to insist that you get vaccinated.
Coal mining companies make sure employees wear respirators. All kinds of employers make sure people have hearing protection. Fall protection is required in all kinds of jobs. If your company is not looking out for your safety, then perhaps that is not a company that is worthy of working at.
The threat to the supply chain etc… is that employees end up out sick or even dead from COVID, or that other employees have to qualities because the guy that did not get vaccinated and who was 5-10 time more likely TOO get infected, did get infected and exposed all of his. co-workers.
Sick people don’t contribute to the economy. Dead people sure don’t contribute to the economy. People living in fear of getting sick are going to pull back on their activities.
Also, amazingly enough there are scientists all over the world that are watching and studying the situation, and when new information comes along that can be verified from multiple scientific studies, they change the guidance they give. I know at times it can be confusing and over time it seems like conflicting information comes out, but that is the way science works. With new information, smart people change their minds and behavior. I would hope that if you got vaccinated, you would be smart enough to know when you were vaccinated, and then be smart enough to know when you should be getting a booster.
I can’t wait to start making complaints to OSHA! I am going to be one of the many overwhelming OSHA with FALSE reports. Picking on companies who are requiring the mandate. OSHA will be overwhemed with complaints that are false.
This will create a bottleneck and allow this to play out a bit longer for us who choose against these Gestapo style rules
This should do wonders for the brain dead old man’s ever shrinking coattails.
We have gone from 15 days to bend the curve of hospitalization to you must participate in a drug company clinical trial to keep a job. In under 2 years. Does this raise a red flag to any one.
Never let a crisis go to waste
Rahm Emmanual Obama Chief of Staff circa 2010
The only thing that raises a red flag is all the cranks and crack pots who have come out of the woodwork. You’d think the no-show of JFK Jr. the other day would have taken the wind out if their sails a little…
You want a real, scientific reason to consider pausing the implementation of this new rule? How about this news:
Pfizer Says COVID-19 Pill Cut Hospital, Death Risk by 90%
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2021/11/05/pfizer-says-covid-19-pill-cut-hospital-death-risk-by-90/
Of course, that would require the same people who refuse the vaccine … to take a treatment from a drug company, the same one that made the vaccine they are refusing, as opposed to putting their faith and trust into whatever nonsense is fed into their brain by the Facebook algorithm or Fox News.