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Seriously – let them die.
Matthew – Sounds Sociopathic
There is no 100% protection because that is life. Just like getting other vaccines or medical test you have a choice this is the USA. I got the vaccine but I am not going to wear a mask for the rest of my life.
Are hospitals turning people anyway who are sick and didn’t receive any vaccinations? Maybe they should be.
Jaron – Should hospitals and doctors turn away and refuse to treat cigarette smokers, the obese with heart disease, drinkers, people who consume fast food? How about anyone who speeds and gets into a traffic accident? They made their choice right? Anyone who makes a risky/unhealthy decision should be left to suffer without treatment? Also, what about those who medically cannot receive a vaccine, can they still be treated?
Yes, those under the age of 12 should also be prioritized for care along with breakthrough cases and the immunocompromised. And if one of those categories of people show up, someone who is unvaccinated should be pushed aside.
The number of unvaccinated people is overwhelming the health care system and is leading to stories like the below. The choices the unvaccinated are making are literally killing other people. It is time to ration the care available for the unvaccinated.
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An Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan died in Texas from a treatable illness all because no ICU beds were available.
Daniel Wilkinson, 46, fell ill on Aug. 21, his mother, Michelle Puget, told Fox News. The next day, the family took him to an emergency room near their Bellville home, where he was diagnosed with gallstone pancreatitis.
Puget said the doctors told her they knew how to treat him and that all was needed was to get him to an ICU bed.
Unfortunately, the Bellville hospital was not equipped with the necessary equipment or personnel needed for the operation Wilkinson needed. Because of the surge of the delta variant of COVID-19, hospitals have been overwhelmed with patients and there were no ICU beds available for Wilkinson.
The doctors and nurses, Puget said, “called all the hospitals in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas and Colorado and couldn’t get him a bed.”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/houston-afghanistan-veteran-dies-treatable-illness-wait-icu-bed
From the AP:
The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare moved northern and north-central Idaho into the crisis designation Monday evening, giving hospitals a legal and ethical template to use while rationing care.
The designation will remain in effect until there are enough resources — including staffing, hospital beds and equipment or a drop in the number of patients — to provide normal levels of treatment to all patients.
Under the guidelines, patients are given priority scores based on a number of factors that impact their likelihood of surviving a health crisis.
Those deemed in most in need of care and most likely to benefit from it are put on priority lists for scarce resources like ICU beds.
Others in dire need but with lower chances of surviving will be given “comfort care” to help keep them pain-free whether they succumb to their illnesses or recover.
Other patients with serious but not life-threatening medical problems will face delays in receiving care until resources are available.
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2021/09/08/idaho-hospitals-covid/
Joe – your response to a broken system is….. close the system to certain people, rather than, fix the system? Your stories, and thought process is understandable, given how some people think, wanting to punish someone they blame, however, I still push your theory to the argument of, what about cigarette smokers, the obese, drinkers, people who speed and crash, people who consume fast food? The Affordable Care Act specifically bars insurance providers from considering several personal choices when pricing insurance for people, which leads to higher prices for the healthy, those who made healthy decisions, those who take care of themselves, to offset the pricing for the unhealthy, those who did not take care of themselves. Based on your argument, insurance providers should charge much higher prices for those who make poor choices. Based on your argument, if someone needs immediate medical care, we must ask them, do you smoke, do you drink, if so, how much, do you eat fast food, how much red meat do you consume, were you speeding, etc.? And they would then get “pushed to the back of the line” to make space for those who scored higher on your “healthy choices scale”. Is that accurate?
Also Joe, here is a quote from the mother of Daniel Wilkinson, she understands the exact opposite of what you and Jaron are professing.
“Puget said she wants change in Texas hospitals. She said the state’s health care system is in need of more nursing staff, tents for overflow patients and additional resources so all patients can get the care and treatment they need.”
All patients is what she said, not denying care for those whom you disdain because you judge their behavior as unhealthy. Of course, if you still want to stick with your punitive concept, google recent photos of your subject; he is overweight, plenty of photos of him consuming alcohol, making unhealthy food choices, etc. Does your punitive theory preclude him getting treatment? Was he vaccinated? How do you apply your punishment across the spectrum?
…crickets…
[Comply or die – Joe B.]
Pfizer’s approved “vaccine” is not available for distribution in the United States.
They are using the emergency use authorization “vaccine” as a substitute.
The FDA has been known to take drug off the market for having a misspelled word in information provided with a drug. But some how they can just take one “vaccine ” and use it as if it’s approved.